Babble: Archived Puzzle for Tuesday, November 4, 2014

12:01 am

licketySplitAUS

Clues are up

12:01 am

cybernan

hello everyone :-)

12:02 am

Cosmo Kramer

thanks lickety

12:02 am

Lizlin

Thanks Lickety and hi all :)

12:02 am

VolleymomDee

flip; hi all; hi liz, cosmo, nan

12:02 am

VolleymomDee

ra 8

12:03 am

VolleymomDee

ty lickety

12:03 am

Lizlin

Hi Dee

12:04 am

Lizlin

Thanks for ra 8 :)

12:04 am

VolleymomDee

yqw

12:04 am

rururocks

ooh nasty words tonight

12:05 am

dizgrannie

ra 8 x 2

12:05 am

Cosmo Kramer

haha. i got only one

12:06 am

rururocks

the ap 6 will bug you too

12:07 am

VolleymomDee

ra 7

12:09 am

dizgrannie

NBT/NBS

12:09 am

VolleymomDee

wtg diz

12:10 am

dizgrannie

ty

12:10 am

cybernan

nbt, nbs

12:10 am

VolleymomDee

yw

12:10 am

Lizlin

WTG, diz and nan

12:12 am

VolleymomDee

nbt nbs

12:14 am

VolleymomDee

st 7

12:14 am

Lizlin

WTG Dee

12:15 am

VolleymomDee

ty so much

12:23 am

rururocks

ap7

12:24 am

VolleymomDee

ty ru, that must be my missing 7 :)

12:25 am

rururocks

the di 6 will tushie you to the max

12:26 am

VolleymomDee

thks for that one, too

12:29 am

cybernan

not seeing that ra 8 -- is the 5/14 the root?

12:30 am

cybernan

oh - nm -- what a stupid word

12:30 am

VolleymomDee

yes...

12:30 am

cybernan

*stupid non-word

12:32 am

dizgrannie

pegs

12:32 am

dizgrannie

oopsie

12:32 am

cybernan

*!* ta da *!*

12:33 am

VolleymomDee

wtg

12:33 am

rururocks

me too finished here too.. good going nan

12:33 am

Lizlin

Congrats, nan and ru

12:33 am

VolleymomDee

wtg ru

12:33 am

cybernan

good night everyone - a demain

12:34 am

cybernan

^5 ru

12:34 am

grannyrose

cooee and g'day from me

12:35 am

grannyrose

WTG NAN!! ~~~WTG RURU!!!

12:36 am

dizgrannie

FWs

12:36 am

grannyrose

WTG DIZ!!!!

12:36 am

rururocks

you guys will never guess my first word

12:37 am

grannyrose

no sex please, we're british....lol

12:38 am

dizgrannie

wouldn't be hard guess, Ru...lol

12:38 am

grannyrose

liz, one of the horses died after running the melbourne cup. it's too sad. as the reporter said, the horse only race because 'we' ask them to do so.

12:38 am

VolleymomDee

nice rose and diz!

12:38 am

VolleymomDee

fireworks

12:39 am

grannyrose

WTG DEE!!!!

12:39 am

VolleymomDee

thks

12:42 am

VolleymomDee

Hope you all have a great night / day!!

12:46 am

rururocks

so it kind of was it's last lap Granny?

12:47 am

rururocks

its

12:48 am

grannyrose

oh, ruru. the poor thing made it back to its stall, then collapsed. i am thinking it was not trained adequately to run this race.

12:48 am

rururocks

I guess it wasn't around furlong

12:48 am

grannyrose

* grim smile * sorry mate, this is too sad for me to laugh at.

12:51 am

rururocks

just trying to add some levity to the situation sorry

12:51 am

gapeach

There is none here, ruru.

12:52 am

grannyrose

it's okay mate, i know you are trying to help me. but i am angry with an inadequately trained horse being to asked to run this race.

12:52 am

rururocks

I think that happens a lot granny

12:52 am

rururocks

I kind of think horseracing is barbaric any way

12:52 am

rururocks

kind of goes with bull fighting etc

12:53 am

rururocks

and rodeos

12:53 am

grannyrose

look, it is a beautiful sport to watch, but the animals MUST be properly trained. to see the winner come home was magnificent.

12:55 am

grannyrose

bull fighting i find difficult to watch. rodeos....sometimes okay.

12:56 am

grannyrose

steeplechasing out of the question.

12:56 am

flosey

hi everyone

12:56 am

grannyrose

g'day flosey

12:56 am

flosey

we went to a bull fight in Spain - didn't stay long, it was awful

12:58 am

rururocks

It is abusive flosey

12:59 am

rururocks

awful

12:59 am

flosey

yes ru, very

1:09 am

rururocks

I heard George Bush wouldn't to the bullfights after the lasr election

1:10 am

rururocks

Last election

1:12 am

rururocks

Where is my set-up man when i need em?

1:16 am

flosey

sorry ru, flying over to Vancouver early tomorrow - trying to finish this grid quickly

1:17 am

rururocks

Not a problem. Have a safe trip. Bye for now

1:18 am

flosey

thanks ru

1:31 am

flosey

fw - with a little help from hubby

1:31 am

flosey

goodnight now

1:35 am

grannyrose

WTG FLOSEY. safe journey, hun. hope you sleep well.

1:48 am

flosey

thanks rose, I may babble while over there, if there's a computer available

2:18 am

sprite

good morning all

2:20 am

grannyrose

{{hugs}} my dearest sprite. how was your night, sweetie?

2:21 am

sprite

hi rose *hugs* mwah, not too great. How was your day and how are you feeling?

2:22 am

grannyrose

feeling quite good. day has been quiet. public holiday here. melbourne cup day.

2:22 am

sprite

ah wonderful. Sounds good to me.

2:23 am

grannyrose

tomorrow going to be a tad difficult. physio in the am, hydro in the pm. * sigh *

2:23 am

sprite

I am here only for a few minutes now, have an appt with Cobi to get things done. Just wanted to let you know I'd be missing from babble once more.

2:23 am

grannyrose

how is your day going to be, hun?

2:23 am

sprite

ouch, that is intensive, rose. Can't they plan that on different days?

2:24 am

grannyrose

ahhhh, forgot about cobi. poor you! no wonder you had a bad night. xoxox

2:25 am

sprite

*hugs* Stress seems to do that to me, lol. Makes for interesting dreams. So to speak. Btw, such a rude grid!

2:25 am

grannyrose

too late now, sprite, as physio herself is on limited hours this week. she had a kmee arthroscopy last wednesday.

2:25 am

Lizlin

Hi all - hugs

2:26 am

grannyrose

{{hugs}} liz girl

2:26 am

sprite

well, make sure you take it easy and tell the therapists both that you are seeing two of them.

2:26 am

sprite

hi Liz *hugs* right back at you :) How are you and yours?

2:27 am

Lizlin

We're well. Happy to have looked in and caught both of you.

2:27 am

grannyrose

same physio for both sessions. it was the only way i could fit both appointments in.

2:27 am

sprite

Ks killed

2:27 am

Lizlin

Hope all's good with you both.

2:27 am

sprite

ok rose. Remind her right away that it is 2 sessions on one day for you. She has to take that into account.

2:27 am

grannyrose

liz, have you seen the news yet?

2:28 am

Lizlin

Didn't realise you had a public holiday today.

2:28 am

grannyrose

yeah. am gonna take hydro very quietly

2:28 am

Lizlin

No, Rose I havent.

2:28 am

sprite

great to hear, Liz :) I have to go again, so sorry. *hugs* to both of you, and both of your husbands.

2:28 am

Lizlin

Hugs, dprite

2:28 am

Lizlin

Sprite!

2:28 am

grannyrose

the favourite for the cup, collapsed after the race and died. i am so angry.

2:29 am

grannyrose

{{hugs}} and xxxx sprite

2:29 am

grannyrose

liz it was so obvious that the horse was under-trained for the race.

2:30 am

Lizlin

Really don't like horse racing - QII talking about use of the crop! Hate steeplechase more. Love horses in fields.

2:30 am

Lizlin

So very sad, Rose.

2:36 am

Lizlin

I understand your anger - at least prepare the horses properly, if you're going to race them.

2:37 am

Lizlin

Sadly, it's all about the money.

2:38 am

grannyrose

exactly liz. it is such a long race. the animal has to have marathon training. to run almost 2 miles at a flat out gallop takes a lot of training.

2:39 am

Lizlin

Perhaps one day there'll be a closer check on these things.

2:40 am

grannyrose

there was some very clear footage on the news.

2:40 am

Lizlin

Think perhaps I'd prefer not to see it!

2:50 am

jimmack

Surely if "pigs will fly" then aeropigs should be allowed.

2:51 am

grannyrose

* giggle* must remember to mention that to sprite for her babble dictionary.

2:58 am

jaxx7

Hi, Rose and Lizlin. How goes it down under?

2:59 am

grannyrose

g'day jaxx. been another warm day here. how are you?

3:00 am

jaxx7

hand much better. Am off to a Child protection meeting concerning grandson. Cold and wet here which suits my mood.

3:01 am

grannyrose

how is the hand? any improvement? and pfft on that meeting. i hope it all goes the correct way.

3:02 am

jaxx7

The hand is healing on the back but the burn on the wrist is none too good. It is because it is where the wrist flexes and it doesn't get time to heal.

3:03 am

jaxx7

hoper

3:03 am

jaxx7

My usual free word, lol

3:05 am

grannyrose

jaxx, can you lightly splint the wrist so you can't flex it?

3:07 am

jaxx7

The meeting will not go the correct way because the SW in charge is overseeing her first case and she is out to make a name for herself. I wouldn't be surprised if these meetings went on until Ashley is 16, she is so determined to find fault.

3:07 am

grannyrose

ugh, jaxx

3:08 am

jaxx7

I hadn't thought of that one, Rose. When I get back from this darned meeting I will have a go. thanks.

3:08 am

grannyrose

that reminds me of when i had the child protection people sticking their noses into how i was handling three boys on my on.

3:09 am

jaxx7

have to go now, the meeting is at 10am and we have to pick up daughter and granddaughter first. Thanks for the sympathy and the idea about the splint. I will let you know how it goes. take care.

3:10 am

grannyrose

she was 20-something...and said to me, i empathise with what you are going through. i laughed in her face, and said, tell me that when you have another 20 years AND THREE BOYS THE SAME AGE AS MINE.

3:11 am

grannyrose

oh, okay, jaxx. good luck, and remeber, take a deep breath count to 10, then spit in her eye...lol

3:11 am

jaxx7

Think they know it all and then some. It makes me sooooo angry and I know that won't get me anywhere. Bye now.

3:33 am

grannyrose

dinner being served. bbl. xoxox

4:04 am

sprite

am here again

4:14 am

grannyrose

hello darling. that was quick. xoxox

4:15 am

sprite

*hugs* And you know why you get an extra *hug*. All done. Am dead beat, but ok.

4:16 am

grannyrose

whoot, sprite. i am so glad

4:16 am

sprite

me too. Love you to pieces. Not because of this... but you know what I mean.

4:17 am

grannyrose

i do hun. many years ago i was rescued in the same way. right back then i vowed if i could EVER help another woman in a similar situation, i would do so.

4:17 am

sprite

I found the aeropigs, btw. Have added them. And added another one. Forepeek - preview

4:18 am

grannyrose

lolol, love it

4:18 am

sprite

{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{rose}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}

4:19 am

grannyrose

awww, shucks, sweetie. you are making me blush. xoxox

4:19 am

sprite

this is the rudest grid I have ever seen

4:19 am

sprite

blush right ahead. :)

4:19 am

grannyrose

ikr? i hate putting in those nasty words.

4:20 am

sprite

yeah. the cu4 is bad enough. But this one, ugh. Makes me cringe, lol.

4:21 am

grannyrose

both of them make me cringe.

4:22 am

sprite

yeah. I prefer the yoni word. Rather have a lotus flower than a cu4 any day.

4:23 am

grannyrose

* giggle* my friend robyn called it poppy which called me much amusement. my bro's wifes name is poppy.

4:23 am

sprite

I had an off day yesterday. Or rather, not me, but everybody around me. Girl sick at home. Several internet ppl with issues. Husband in some kind of funk. Son immediately in fight with husband. I was like.... shoot me straight into the party lights and be done with it.

4:23 am

grannyrose

ugh..*caused*

4:24 am

sprite

awwww that is a sweet word. and LOL

4:24 am

sprite

phantom: profound

4:24 am

grannyrose

poor you and rob. {{hugs}} for you both.

4:25 am

mattygroves

Swearing has been scientifically proven to reduce pain - as long as you're not a habitual potty mouth (ala Brian Blessed)

4:25 am

sprite

thanks darling :) Well he was moping and being unreasonable to all of us, so... hm.... yeah he always deserves a hug. But he has to stop moping, lol.

4:26 am

sprite

hey matty :) I have some favorite swear words for that. Not the fu4 or cu4 though.

4:27 am

grannyrose

g'day matty

4:28 am

grannyrose

me too, swear words i mean. sumnabeech is one.

4:28 am

grannyrose

mongrelbastard is the other

4:29 am

sprite

I have to admit to using sh*t a lot. Also, dutch for peanut butter. Doesn't make sense but is a word with a good 'feel' over it.

4:30 am

grannyrose

don took an oath a long time ago. he promised God he would not smoke, drink, swear or chase loose women. sadly he has failed in the last instance....lol

4:30 am

sprite

all in moderation, lol. Except the chasing women.

4:31 am

grannyrose

well he caught me...lol

4:31 am

sprite

lol so he did, so he did

4:32 am

sprite

found the river of forgetfulness

4:35 am

grannyrose

hey, i just reread that post...are you calling me a loose woman??? roflol...because he does.

4:35 am

sprite

there we go. Fireflies. Physiotherapy later today. Don't have the energy but have to go anyway. Thank God for cars.

4:35 am

grannyrose

WTG SPRITE!!

4:35 am

sprite

I'd say he may have caught you, but you will always be a free spirit

4:36 am

grannyrose

xoxox sprite. i hope your day is kind to you hun.

4:36 am

grannyrose

lolol...nice back-pedal

4:37 am

sprite

will be thinking of you tomorrow, darling. Please take care and don't overdo things. Remember, you tend to give 110%. So for tomorrow, half it and then half it again, ok?

4:37 am

grannyrose

* grin * okay sweetie.

4:38 am

sprite

bye matty and all! May you have a blessed day and a peaceful night.

4:38 am

sprite

*hugs rose*

4:39 am

grannyrose

and i am outta here. 9:40pm...need to get my pills. xoxox to you all. enjoy the grid.

4:39 am

grannyrose

{{hugs}} sprite

4:59 am

crosshair

good morning everyone:)

5:50 am

Kaplan the Magne

People who have trouble with profanity will not get fireworks.

6:00 am

MollyL

Oh fu4, really?

6:01 am

sukee

Good morning

6:02 am

MollyL

Interesting, that word goes back to before the 1400's.

6:03 am

MollyL

Hi Sukee

6:07 am

sukee

Cat tries and tries to get me out of bed too early, now I'm up, he is fed and is now sleeping on my bed.

6:23 am

MLFAN17

hello

6:24 am

MLFAN17

Third column lone E stats please?

6:25 am

ladycece920

el4

6:25 am

MLFAN17

thank you lady

6:25 am

MLFAN17

nbt

6:25 am

ladycece920

yw

6:26 am

MLFAN17

Fu 4/13 is actually in the grid?

6:27 am

ladycece920

surprisingly!

6:27 am

Uneaixoise

occasionally cu4 as well -- jeezomeez

6:27 am

MLFAN17

i dont remember if i have seen it as an actual word like this before or not?

6:28 am

MLFAN17

une yes i have seen that one a few times

6:28 am

Uneaixoise

brb-- taking dogs out to pee

6:29 am

MLFAN17

does anyone have either of the ra8 words?

6:31 am

crayola

yes, one means most fast

6:31 am

MLFAN17

thanks crayola nbt and nbs

6:31 am

crayola

wtg

6:32 am

MLFAN17

thanks crayola

6:33 am

crosshair

lol. Just applied for a freelance editing position. Spent 20 minutes correcting the ad posting for the job and fired it back to them:)

6:33 am

MLFAN17

rotfl cross

6:34 am

Sugrraleona

LOL

6:34 am

Sugrraleona

hope you get it

6:34 am

crosshair

were over 15 strikethroughs, over 12 words added for clarity, and there were over 20 punctuation corrections by the time I was done.:)

6:35 am

MLFAN17

are you sure wyou want to work for a company like that cross?lol

6:36 am

MLFAN17

crayola is the other ra8 similar?

6:36 am

crosshair

I am nothing if not original when applying for these positions:)

6:36 am

Trifioso

hello friends

6:37 am

MLFAN17

cross those are the types that employer are scared of arent they?:)

6:37 am

MLFAN17

hi trif

6:37 am

crayola

mlf, I don't have the other one, sorry.

6:37 am

MLFAN17

ty crayola

6:39 am

ladycece920

it's similar to the 2 words above it

6:41 am

crosshair

You mean when I correct their own ads? I hope so! :)

6:41 am

ladycece920

ends in what you do when you don't want someone to find you

6:41 am

MLFAN17

lol cross

6:42 am

MLFAN17

thank you again lady

6:42 am

crayola

oh, ty ladycece

6:43 am

ladycece920

yw

6:43 am

MLFAN17

EP 5/14?

6:45 am

ladycece920

uumm... e + another way to spell 4

6:45 am

ladycece920

can't think of another way to clue it!!

6:46 am

MLFAN17

got it ty lady

6:46 am

ladycece920

yay

6:46 am

rubyfoo

whoo, very quick half

6:46 am

rubyfoo

and hello

6:46 am

MLFAN17

hi ruby

6:48 am

crosshair

((Ruby Tuesday))

6:51 am

rubyfoo

6:52 am

rubyfoo

6:52 am

rubyfoo

and ty lady cc

6:53 am

MLFAN17

are the AP 6/7 words common?

6:53 am

lbdawger

tadone!! finito!! fun grid with a few twists

6:53 am

lbdawger

and hello everyone!

6:53 am

rubyfoo

hello and congrats, ibd

6:53 am

MLFAN17

hello ibd and congrats

6:54 am

lbdawger

ap6 is plural common bugs the 7 adds a vowel before the plural

6:54 am

lbdawger

hello, Ruby and MLF

6:55 am

MLFAN17

thank you ibd got 3 more words

6:55 am

rubyfoo

I'm stuck on the upper-left e and the I in the same colum

6:56 am

rubyfoo

but 76 words and nbs!

6:56 am

MLFAN17

ruby you mean top left corner E firswt column?

6:57 am

rubyfoo

yes

6:57 am

rubyfoo

probably a fish

6:57 am

MLFAN17

ep plus 2 vowels we have had the word many times

6:58 am

rubyfoo

I'll stab myself with that fish! maybe it's a swordfish

6:58 am

rubyfoo

and I got the I, another fish duh moi

6:59 am

MLFAN17

lol ruby

6:59 am

MLFAN17

AP 5/20?

6:59 am

rubyfoo

81 words and time to rest Insanely busy morning

7:00 am

MLFAN17

ruby i have 80 words and 45 to go

7:01 am

MollyL

ap5 a + what you do through a fence hole

7:01 am

rubyfoo

83 and 42. But you and lady helped me

7:01 am

MLFAN17

we try ruby:)

7:01 am

rubyfoo

Hello Molly

7:01 am

MLFAN17

thanks molly

7:02 am

MollyL

Hey Ruby

7:02 am

rubyfoo

It is gllomy and they say a strm is coing, but it's warmer than the past few sunny days Go figure!

7:02 am

rubyfoo

(great typing, time for a nap)

7:03 am

MollyL

We are full on Fall here. Cool, sunny days and crisp nights.

7:03 am

MLFAN17

its supposed to be a high of 70 today by mid to late afternoon

7:03 am

rubyfoo

Our fall colors are very subtle here, nothing brighter than a dull orangem ecept in my garden where there are some reddish maples

7:05 am

MLFAN17

beautiful fall colors here too we get have been getting frost in the AM recently

7:06 am

rubyfoo

89 and zzzzz

7:07 am

MLFAN17

bye ruby

7:31 am

Riverdance

good morning everyone - 20 left and stuck - guess I need to list if I want to finish today

7:32 am

MLFAN17

hi river

7:33 am

phaeton

hello...help with the ra7 pls

7:34 am

MollyL

Ends in what you do in a game that includes "go seek"

7:34 am

Riverdance

dont have that one

7:34 am

phaeton

nm...monkeyed it

7:34 am

MLFAN17

two of them phae

7:35 am

phaeton

ty mlf...do you have the re6/24?

7:35 am

MLFAN17

re plus pa4/6?

7:35 am

phaeton

ty

7:35 am

phaeton

DONE

7:36 am

Riverdance

congrats phaeton

7:36 am

phaeton

ty

7:36 am

MLFAN17

yw

7:36 am

MLFAN17

he 4/6?

7:36 am

phaeton

had to list to finish the last 20 or so...

7:37 am

phaeton

put a lisp on the he4/5 before it

7:37 am

Riverdance

he + **e end!

7:37 am

Riverdance

17 left now

7:38 am

MLFAN17

got it ty

7:38 am

phaeton

there are a few weird ones

7:39 am

MLFAN17

i have been noticing the same thing

7:40 am

Riverdance

14

7:41 am

Riverdance

12

7:41 am

Riverdance

amazing what can be found with the list

7:42 am

MLFAN17

hopefullly a lot more River?

7:43 am

Riverdance

10 left

7:43 am

Biltong

Hi all :) Help with the ra7, please?

7:43 am

MLFAN17

which one bit?

7:44 am

MollyL

ra7...Ends in what you do in a game that includes "go seek"

7:44 am

MollyL

There is only one ra7. There are 2 ra8

7:44 am

lbdawger

ra7, a type of "music" + Mr. Jekyl's counterpart spelled differently

7:44 am

MLFAN17

i know molly my mistake

7:45 am

Biltong

ty :)

7:45 am

lbdawger

time to get dressed. hagd/n everyone!

7:46 am

Riverdance

5

7:46 am

Biltong

bye, lbd

7:49 am

Riverdance

fireworks

7:49 am

Riverdance

that last 20 was easy once I listed

7:49 am

Biltong

yay, River, well done!

7:49 am

Riverdance

that was a fun grid. Yesterdays was evil!

7:49 am

Riverdance

time to get to work - have a great day folks!

7:50 am

Biltong

bye River :)

7:52 am

Judi

Hi, y'all. A brief bit of Babble before I dash out to vote.

7:52 am

Biltong

Hi Judi :)

7:57 am

Biltong

Help with ap5/16, please?

7:57 am

josephjames

i always vote, even though i find it depressing

7:57 am

bichon

plant sucking insect

7:58 am

Judi

Yeah, me too, JJ. Some times you just have hold your nose and hope for the best.

7:59 am

Biltong

ty, bichon

8:00 am

MollyL

I can only hope that the American voters have gotten a little smarter over the past few years.

8:01 am

josephjames

it doesn't matter how smart the voters are if the politicians are horrid.

8:01 am

jimmack

"if" ?

8:01 am

Judi

I'd settle for reasonably informed voters.

8:02 am

MollyL

Oh, that would be fresh, Judi

8:02 am

Judi

I vote, therefore I have the right to bitch.

8:03 am

josephjames

i was told recently i didn't have that right unless i actually RAN FOR OFFICE, not just voted.

8:04 am

Judi

lol. Well, that's a bit extreme, JJ.

8:04 am

josephjames

yeah, well, what do you expect from lawyers

8:05 am

MollyL

Sadly, not all of us have the umpty gabillion dollars it takes to stage a successful campaign.

8:05 am

Judi

And it's frightening when you think about how many lawyers become politicians. *shudders*

8:05 am

MollyL

*Waits for JMC to start swinging the frying pan*

8:06 am

Judi

Is JMC a lawyer?

8:06 am

MollyL

Oh man, I need new glasses. I read jimmack as JMC. I was wondering what she's doing in Scotland.

8:06 am

dcseain

She is judi, yes.

8:07 am

Judi

Well, I still like her anyway. ;-p

8:09 am

Judi

That being said, off I go to punch some buttons. See you kids later! *POOF*

8:12 am

josephjames

has voting addled my brain or is this just a hard puzzle

8:21 am

josephjames

could anyone tell me about the 7s and 7s

8:22 am

josephjames

i mean 7s and 8s

8:22 am

LuvWordGames

ra 8/50 is the fastest

8:23 am

josephjames

oh i found st7

8:23 am

josephjames

thanks

8:26 am

bichon

stats for top o, pls

8:26 am

josephjames

op4 and 5

8:26 am

marilyn992

op 5 12

8:32 am

Aloyisius

hi folks.. pretty smooth grid today

8:34 am

hego

the f bomb! Hair stands on end!!

8:35 am

Aloyisius

woke me up, hego

8:35 am

hego

lol, right!

8:38 am

bichon

ty jj and marilynn

8:40 am

hego

Hi Bichon

8:40 am

bichon

hi hego, aloy

8:41 am

Aloyisius

hi bichon.. I notice your icon is dark.. are there dark bichons? I thought they were all white

8:41 am

Aloyisius

fw.. that went quickly!

8:42 am

bichon

No, this is a topiary Bichon. I liked it so I kept it. I look at white all day.

8:42 am

hego

WTG!! Aloy

8:42 am

bichon

Woot Aloy

8:42 am

hego

Ruru was done at 12:32

8:42 am

Aloyisius

oh my, a topiary!

8:42 am

Aloyisius

ruru is a fireball

8:43 am

hego

yes, a green dog.

8:44 am

bichon

How do people do these grids so quickly. I don't have the intensity and focus

8:44 am

hego

Me neither

8:45 am

bichon

bbl

8:45 am

Aloyisius

well, I have a bunch of things to run around and do so I'd best be off.. am excited about seeing old friends and going to the opera tonight.. I don't know how one can do the grid so quickly without chatting. I close chat usually until I am 3/4 done and just focus..

8:46 am

Aloyisius

ok, ciao for now.. am off.. hagd all! bye hego

8:46 am

Aloyisius

bye bichon

8:46 am

hego

Enjoy!!!

9:11 am

Judi

Hello again! Back to try to finish before my lunch outing.

9:11 am

Angelsong

hi, all. After all the stress and sadness, a couple of happy notes. Yesterday, I attended my brother's retirement party, and today is our 16th wedding anniversary. I always look forward to special occasions, because my husband loves planning surprises, and he does a beautiful job. I am well and truly blessed.

9:12 am

Judi

Hi, Angel. Sounds like you're on a party streak now! Congrats on your 16th!

9:23 am

Judi

Uh oh. Kitten attack. She's trying to climb into my hoodie.

9:24 am

MollyL

Ru, Boy Genius, often finishes grids that fast.

9:29 am

Judi

Word nerd. Always flexing his IQ.

9:32 am

MollyL

Well, better than flashing his...

9:33 am

Judi

*covers eyes*

9:38 am

Dr_God

Restarting the sever. The site will be back in a few mins.

9:43 am

jwr

thanks dr g

9:43 am

rururocks

See you guys talk about forbidden subjects and the server goes down

9:44 am

jwr

what's forbidden? if you want to finish this grid, you have to say fuh---

9:44 am

rururocks

I was joking with molly and judi...jw

9:45 am

jwr

sorry bye

9:47 am

rururocks

No big deal

9:49 am

MollyL

Yes, there we go, stirring the pot again. The bane of Babble.

9:50 am

rururocks

Just saying...

9:53 am

MollyL

Just kidding *sprinkles humor dust liberally*

9:56 am

PMS

p

10:03 am

rururocks

LOL

10:04 am

rururocks

stirring with what

10:06 am

harpjane

nbt

10:26 am

harpjane

nbs

10:26 am

harpjane

did i kill chat?

10:29 am

MollyL

You can do whatever you want. You're in the grid today.
: D

10:32 am

harpjane

lol i did not see myself yet! thanks!

10:40 am

rururocks

so is oprah.. but we don't want to let HER take over this game

10:40 am

MollyL

God forbid

10:40 am

rururocks

Imagine Iylana fix my life with some of this crowd :D

10:58 am

rururocks

did I kill the chat?

10:59 am

hego

yes

10:59 am

rururocks

dang it

10:59 am

hego

No one knew who lylana is

10:59 am

rururocks

oh

10:59 am

hego

Is that you in the bath?

11:00 am

rururocks

mrs ru would watch that show every day on O channel.. I can't stand that $%@#@

11:00 am

rururocks

yes. hego.. trying to figure out an iphone

11:00 am

hego

lol

11:01 am

hego

I have no idea what that show is, so I must be on your good list.

11:01 am

rururocks

lucky you.. she'd drive you nuts

11:01 am

MollyL

I've heard of Fix My Life, but never seen it. The O channel gives me the eebie geebies

11:02 am

hego

Ru, I see you were done by 12:30.

11:02 am

rururocks

I think after that.. but yes.. it was an easier grid today

11:03 am

rururocks

the one on the weekend gave me fits

11:03 am

rolin

hi all.. i have the ra8 could i have the stats for the other pls?

11:03 am

hego

I'm impressed.

11:03 am

hego

weekend one was tough.

11:03 am

rururocks

it's only 125 ?

11:03 am

MollyL

I must be the only person who does not go back and read the flip

11:03 am

hego

Hi Rolin

11:04 am

hego

Do not have that one yet.

11:04 am

rururocks

the flip is nuts actually.. probably best not to molly

11:04 am

MollyL

It's another ra8, Rolin

11:04 am

hego

Molly, I hardly ever do, but someone made a commment that made me curious.

11:04 am

rolin

ty molly

11:18 am

mattygroves

All finished

12:01 pm

harpjane

ke5? please?

12:07 pm

MollyL

Rhymes with red root vegetable that some people pickle

12:07 pm

harpjane

duh thanks

12:08 pm

MollyL

Duh? It's a young guinea fowl. Never heard of the word myself.

12:10 pm

harpjane

i had the singular though, that's where the duh comes in!

12:10 pm

harpjane

halfway, bbl be sure to vote, all my united states-ers!

12:19 pm

Anniebrook

hello hello

12:20 pm

MollyL

♪What a wonderful word...hello♫

12:20 pm

Anniebrook

Hi Molly, cheerful day today..going to vote later, Bobby votes also

12:47 pm

rubyfoo

12:47 pm

rubyfoo

gloomy November; the rains have started

1:25 pm

MLFAN17

Last ge5 clue please?

1:30 pm

MLFAN17

hello?

1:30 pm

lilliann

Add a vowel to the 4 before it

1:31 pm

MLFAN17

hi lilian

1:33 pm

MLFAN17

lillian my last 4 letter word ends in an s?

1:33 pm

lilliann

Rhymes with the word for singlet.Something you do in humour

1:33 pm

lilliann

Sorry my computor froze and hi Mlf

1:33 pm

MLFAN17

oh now i got it ty lilian

1:34 pm

lilliann

Yw

1:39 pm

MLFAN17

Last KE 4/9 clue please?

1:40 pm

zoozzoom

KE + first two letters of the oink oink animal.

1:41 pm

MLFAN17

thanks and hello zooz

1:41 pm

zoozzoom

hi there, Mlf :-)

1:41 pm

lilliann

I only have one Ke 9, not been on here long and i don't know if it is the last...To have forever is the 4 i have and the 6 that follows

1:42 pm

lilliann

Hi and thank you Zooz

1:42 pm

zoozzoom

Hello, Lilliann :-)

1:42 pm

lilliann

How are you?

1:43 pm

zoozzoom

i am well thank you. How about yourself?

1:43 pm

lilliann

Full of cold but otherwise just dandy :) I take it you've finished?

1:44 pm

zoozzoom

I have, yes :-)

1:44 pm

zoozzoom

Sorry to hear you are under the weather :-(

1:44 pm

zoozzoom

Get well soon.

1:45 pm

lilliann

I thought so...it's life! I'm trying...very trying!! :)

1:45 pm

zoozzoom

lol

1:45 pm

MLFAN17

aer the he 5 words anything i might know i am not finding any of them?

1:46 pm

MLFAN17

are

1:46 pm

lilliann

I have he4 words but no 5's and i only need 2 more and i'm not sure if they are 5's yet

1:46 pm

zoozzoom

HE5??

1:47 pm

lilliann

Tell a lie, i need 3 more h words

1:47 pm

MLFAN17

sorry neve rmind

1:48 pm

zoozzoom

Ah well...Soon be Christmas :-)

1:49 pm

lilliann

Yay!! I will be lying by a pool drinking a cocktail :)

1:49 pm

MLFAN17

i am missing a hi4 between the tw hi 5s on the bottom of the list.. any help please?

1:50 pm

lilliann

Saying that, i won't be on Christmas day as we don't arrive until then but i will be having a glass of wine in the evening enjoying my meal that someone else has cooked

1:50 pm

zoozzoom

first three same then add another vowel.

1:51 pm

zoozzoom

Where are you going, Lilliann?

1:51 pm

lilliann

Mexico

1:51 pm

MLFAN17

add a vowel to what?

1:52 pm

lilliann

We have been once before 2 years ago after the bairn got run over but this time she will be more with it and we are going to the Pacific side instead of the carribbean side

1:52 pm

zoozzoom

wow, Nice. Hope you have a great time...actually that is a silly thing to say..lol I am sure you will!

1:53 pm

zoozzoom

HI + letter + vowel

1:54 pm

MollyL

It will soon be CHRISTMAS??? I guess Zoom already has his tree up and all the presents bought and wrapped. Yeesh, I need to get through Thanksgiving first.

1:54 pm

lilliann

Mmm, well hopefully as last year i didn't has husband was too stressed out after working away so much and the bairn had womanly things going on and normal teenage outbursts so it wasn't great, but hopefully this year will be different

1:54 pm

MLFAN17

i am not getting it zooz

1:55 pm

zoozzoom

Hope so, Lilliann. And the weather will be sooooo much better than here..lol

1:55 pm

zoozzoom

Nah not yet, Molly.Although i intend to get it all sorted well on time this year.

1:55 pm

zoozzoom

HI + letter + 3rd vowel.

1:56 pm

MLFAN17

duhh sorry and thank you zooz

1:56 pm

MollyL

First four letters of Mrs. Clinton's name

1:56 pm

zoozzoom

Start with the H on the bottom.

1:56 pm

lilliann

The bairn didn't want to go away this year but i think it's because she misses her grandad being with her at Christmas but he won't come away with us, so this year we are having Christmas day on the 21st and inviting our next door neighbours with her Grandad and the bairn is doing all the cooking, buying presents and decorations etc

1:56 pm

lilliann

Aslong as i don't have to wash up!! :)

1:56 pm

MollyL

No, that's wrong. I guess I don't know how to spell her name.

2:00 pm

MLFAN17

i need clues for both LE 5 words for fireworks please?

2:00 pm

zoozzoom

Thats nice of you to have christmas early for her and grandad to spend time before the holiday.

2:00 pm

zoozzoom

LE5 what you stand on to walk + vowel plural.

2:01 pm

MLFAN17

ty zooz

2:01 pm

zoozzoom

Welcome.

2:02 pm

periwinkle

I voted.

2:02 pm

zoozzoom

Hello, Peri :-)

2:02 pm

lilliann

It was my idea but my husband's to let her do everything so she feels included more plus it is good for to know how to plan etc as she is 15 and a good cook but it is a Sunday and her Grandad says he's not coming as he goes to the working mans' club on a Sunday, so she told him he is coming even if she has to go to his and kick him up the butt...her words

2:02 pm

periwinkle

hi zooz, hi all

2:02 pm

MLFAN17

zooz do you have the other one by any chance?

2:02 pm

MLFAN17

hi peri

2:03 pm

MollyL

I like being home for Christmas.

2:03 pm

lilliann

Ty for the Le5 Zoom and hi Peri

2:03 pm

zoozzoom

lol good for her, lilliann :-)

2:03 pm

periwinkle

hi, lil. good to see you

2:04 pm

periwinkle

help with top corner E pls

2:05 pm

lilliann

It's our only family holiday Molly and we all need to be away from home for a week or two.I'd prefer a Summer holiday but that's when he makes a living so it has to be Christmas

2:05 pm

zoozzoom

EP4

2:05 pm

lilliann

You too Peri

2:05 pm

MLFAN17

ep4/5

2:05 pm

periwinkle

ty looking

2:05 pm

MLFAN17

zooz LE 5/12?

2:05 pm

periwinkle

duh, ty for ep4

2:06 pm

MLFAN17

peri and the plural

2:06 pm

MollyL

It's nice that you get a vacation L. I can barely remember what that is like. Have fun.

2:06 pm

periwinkle

ty got the plural

2:06 pm

zoozzoom

Not had a vacation since 1985 :-(

2:06 pm

MLFAN17

yw peri didnt want you to forget that

2:06 pm

periwinkle

I have not had a vacation in a very long time either

2:07 pm

zoozzoom

LE + very common every day word.

2:07 pm

lilliann

Luckily enough he makes the tips to pay for one, but then we don't see him for majority of the year....I'll pack you all in my suitcases

2:07 pm

periwinkle

bbl

2:09 pm

zoozzoom

Mlf, LE5/12 DEf : Classical Mythology. a river in Hades whose water caused forgetfulness of the past in those who drank of it.

2:09 pm

zoozzoom

Google it might help you out :-)

2:10 pm

MLFAN17

sounds lovely doesnt it zooz?

2:11 pm

zoozzoom

I suppose it depends on what your past has been like. In my case. Yes I would like a drink from the river :-)

2:11 pm

MLFAN17

thanks zooz and everyone else Fireworks for me!

2:11 pm

zoozzoom

Congrats, Mlf!

2:12 pm

lilliann

Yay!WTG Mlf! :)

2:14 pm

MollyL

*Drinks a toast to forgetfulness with Zoom* Clink

2:14 pm

zoozzoom

*Clink* Cheers!

2:15 pm

MollyL

L, did you ever get your raised bed garden?

2:17 pm

lilliann

No not yet.I've had a fir tree taken out....Hopefully next year i will get my back garden done.We need a new car first and i want a new sofa and new flooring in the house, so if i need to wait another year i can do as atleast i can get int eh front yard and plant my flowers and veg

2:20 pm

lilliann

It's actually more private in the front even with a school opposite

2:21 pm

bichon

hi lili, lonmg time so see

2:22 pm

lilliann

Hi Bichon, lovely to see you :)

2:22 pm

lilliann

I hope you and your family have been well and i'm loving your topiary

2:23 pm

bichon

I love it because it isn't white

2:25 pm

lilliann

Well, i suppose you do see alot of white with your two.I think it's amazing the things people do with topiary

2:40 pm

bichon

bbl

2:40 pm

lilliann

Tc hin

2:43 pm

lilliann

Fireworks!! I promised daughter i would play cards with her before bed as she's been revising.Bye all and tc

2:49 pm

Soodle

..... Thinking that not only did I drink from that LE 12/5 river, I must have swam the length of it. :-/ And hello all :-)

2:51 pm

Book Doctor Gwen

hi all, nbt

2:51 pm

Book Doctor Gwen

wtg lilliann !!!!!!

2:51 pm

Soodle

Hi BDG. :-)

2:52 pm

Book Doctor Gwen

how you doin"

2:52 pm

Soodle

Pullin' the divil by the tail. And you?

2:53 pm

Book Doctor Gwen

gettin' stomped by the devil LOL

2:54 pm

Soodle

is it that old devil called love, by any chance? Lol

2:54 pm

Book Doctor Gwen

nope! it's the old devil called crap i am behind on all my bills!

2:58 pm

Soodle

Ugh, tell me about it. With me it seems to be one step forward, two steps back.

2:58 pm

Soodle

AND this grid is not easy.

3:04 pm

Book Doctor Gwen

omg i found an 8

3:13 pm

Book Doctor Gwen

stuck with 25 to go. flying away now, bye all

3:20 pm

MollyL

Soodle, nice picture of boyo and his hunting wins.

3:47 pm

Jillyjill

Hello babbleworld!

3:59 pm

Jillyjill

♫♫♫ I'm all alone in the world ♫♫♫

4:08 pm

bichon

Hi Jilly

4:09 pm

Jillyjill

ahhh....good company!!

4:11 pm

bichon

22 left here

4:12 pm

Jillyjill

27 here, but have to pop out soon and go VOTE!! Just needed some down time after a rough day at work....

4:13 pm

bichon

I voted early this morning

4:13 pm

penquis

hello jill, bichon.....can someone give me STATS for the 8's please?

4:14 pm

Jillyjill

I go to work too early :( Several times have done absentee. Kinda wish I had...LOL

4:14 pm

Jillyjill

only have one ra8/55

4:14 pm

penquis

i did absentee....just makes it easier to have the ballot and research my options before voting...

4:14 pm

penquis

ty...

4:15 pm

Jillyjill

*spoiler warning*....it is a pl

4:15 pm

penquis

ty...

4:16 pm

Jillyjill

ahhh I see both 8's are ra

4:16 pm

penquis

yes, i just got the other one....

4:16 pm

bichon

I think absentee ballot is good. You don't have to run the PTA gauntlet

4:17 pm

Jillyjill

got em!

4:17 pm

Jillyjill

I know...going to regret it, but at least it's a small town and I know everyone!

4:17 pm

penquis

it's a lot easier....and i feel like i am making more informed decisions....

4:19 pm

Jillyjill

I have worked a lot for three of the contests this year...am invited to a election night party! Now, will I have the energy to go?

4:19 pm

Jillyjill

OK, 19 left...off to go vote...happy babbling penq and bichon...and all lurkers!

4:20 pm

penquis

you will get your second wind... ;o)

4:20 pm

bichon

bye Jilly

4:21 pm

penquis

bye...

4:22 pm

bichon

It's the first ime I've seen the f word in the grid

4:22 pm

penquis

me, too...

4:28 pm

bichon

fw hagd all

4:32 pm

dan2bit

evening all! right column done

4:34 pm

MollyL

Another boy genius

5:54 pm

Jillyjill

Hello again babbleworld!

6:02 pm

Jillyjill

<---!!FW!!

6:23 pm

periwinkle

I have ra8/50. help with the ra8/55 pls

6:25 pm

72 Temple Owl

hey dan, did you legalize weed? :)

6:26 pm

periwinkle

nm

6:35 pm

72 Temple Owl

fw! happy babbling, folks.

7:04 pm

stidgmere

Hello all already quite dim outside here in the great Northwest.

7:11 pm

tabbycat

Looks like medical marijuana will be approved here in FL

7:14 pm

Bugsaw

hello friends

7:15 pm

rururocks

Waves to bugs

7:15 pm

Bugsaw

hi ruru. how goes your day?

7:16 pm

Bugsaw

I did nothing useful all day. I loved it

7:16 pm

rururocks

Nice day actually thanks

7:17 pm

rururocks

I got a lot of annoying paperwork done

7:17 pm

Bugsaw

we have had so much rain that we have been under a boil water advisory for over a week. They hope to lift it tomorrow which will be nice

7:17 pm

rururocks

Boil water?

7:18 pm

rururocks

Are you on a well?

7:19 pm

Bugsaw

No. We use a giantic lake but there has been so much rainfall too fast so the water can't clean up fast enough. Lots of turbidity so boil for 1-2 minutes before using

7:20 pm

stidgmere

Hi bugs and ruru. We are getting ready for more rain tomorrow.

7:20 pm

rururocks

Wow..i have never heard of that before

7:21 pm

Bugsaw

hey gmere. Have you had problems due to the rain:

7:21 pm

rururocks

You guys are used to rain..aren't you?

7:22 pm

stidgmere

No problems with our clan and the water. Still enough runoff we are not in danger of flooding and our wells are covered and the water pure.

7:22 pm

Bugsaw

as long as it doesn't cause mudslides

7:23 pm

Bugsaw

some flooding in Vancouver now

7:24 pm

stidgmere

Slides are endemic along the sound north of Seattle. The rail lines are broken every winter and the passengers shuttled by bus to the line further down the line.

7:26 pm

Bugsaw

sometimes happen here when subdivisions are built on hillsides and they don't leave enough trees to hold everything together

7:27 pm

penquis

i am done... :oD

7:27 pm

stidgmere

Cutting trees has a lot of effects but none should be surprising after this much experience with building. Congrats penquis!!

7:28 pm

penquis

i am lucky to have power....there are tens of thousands in my county still without power....voting places needed to be moved....

7:28 pm

penquis

ty!

7:28 pm

Bugsaw

well done penquis

7:28 pm

penquis

ty!

7:32 pm

dan2bit

hah, I am surprised that the 4/13 was my last F

7:32 pm

dan2bit

evening all!

7:33 pm

rururocks

Holy fu4!!! Really?

7:33 pm

dan2bit

yeah it's f4ing odd

7:34 pm

rururocks

F4ing amazing!!!!

7:36 pm

penquis

interesting how guys just like to say that word.... ;o)

7:36 pm

dan2bit

say, do, daydream about...

7:38 pm

penquis

heh heh....

7:39 pm

rururocks

I never think about it

7:40 pm

rururocks

Being celibate an all...

7:42 pm

dan2bit

I'm sorry for your loss, ruru >=)

7:42 pm

rururocks

Lol

7:44 pm

stidgmere

Time to fix dinner so will leave this fascinating chog to others.

7:44 pm

rururocks

This applying to sainthood ain't all it is cracked up to be.

7:45 pm

dan2bit

stats for the fourth row E anybody?

7:45 pm

rururocks

El4

7:46 pm

dan2bit

ty ruru - that's nbt/nbs

8:04 pm

gemini_J13

that is just wrong

8:24 pm

mkg

hi all. clues for the 8s please?

8:27 pm

dan2bit

ra8 fastest

8:29 pm

dan2bit

the other 8 is also a ra but I don't have it yet

8:30 pm

mkg

ty got the fastest.

8:33 pm

dan2bit

ra7 - skin of a hip-hop artist? and plural

8:33 pm

mkg

anyone out there have the other 8 to clue me? ty.

8:34 pm

mkg

huh? skin? as in what?color? texture?

8:34 pm

dan2bit

skin as in **** and go seek

8:34 pm

uusue2

like an animal skin, mkg

8:35 pm

dan2bit

firewords! tx ruru and all cluers

8:35 pm

mkg

ty. got it. weird word.

8:35 pm

mkg

yeah dan!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

8:35 pm

mkg

yeah dan!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

8:36 pm

uusue2

yay dan!

8:38 pm

penquis

congrats, dan!

8:39 pm

mkg

need a clue for the E that is in fourth column please. ty.

8:39 pm

uusue2

you mean the 4th row, mkg? el4/5, short for schools for little and big kids

8:40 pm

mkg

hi sue. yes that is what i mean. but i dont get clue. schools.............els but the L is not next to the s. hmmm

8:41 pm

uusue2

sorry, not a plural

8:41 pm

mkg

just got it. ty. yes i think i saw this term before. ty.

8:42 pm

uusue2

I have no idea why it's an allowable word, but there you go

8:47 pm

uusue2

fireworks!

8:56 pm

penquis

congrats

8:56 pm

kje

congrats

9:03 pm

jesdraggon

heya alls

9:04 pm

kje

have the ra8... what is the other?

9:04 pm

kje

hi jes

9:04 pm

penquis

ra 8 x 3

9:04 pm

penquis

sorry...x 2

9:04 pm

kje

hmmm... ok, ty

9:05 pm

penquis

one is a plural...

9:05 pm

kje

got them, ty

9:05 pm

kje

those two related words were my last two r... 17 to go!

9:06 pm

jesdraggon

how's everyone?

9:07 pm

kje

ok

9:07 pm

penquis

keep plugging, kje...

9:07 pm

kje

you?

9:07 pm

penquis

ok here, thanks...

9:07 pm

jesdraggon

not too bad. skinny dog's up to 33.6 pounds :)

9:08 pm

kje

that's great

9:08 pm

jesdraggon

a lot better than 27!

9:09 pm

penquis

i am heading out to play some sudoku on the ipad...g'nite all who remain....

9:09 pm

jesdraggon

g'night penquis

9:09 pm

kje

gn pen - thanks for the help

9:15 pm

kje

FW!

9:16 pm

LeslieAnn

congrats kje!

9:16 pm

kje

can clue briefly if needed

9:16 pm

LeslieAnn

i'm ok :)

9:17 pm

kje

ok... happy babbling!

9:18 pm

Nef

YAY, kje!!! WTG!!!

9:18 pm

Nef

and hello anyone still here. (I'm distracted; watching election returns

9:19 pm

LeslieAnn

any good races in your area nef?

9:21 pm

Nef

Our polls closed a bit over an hour ago; so far nothing startling happening here. I'm surprised at some of the other states though.

9:23 pm

Nef

How about you?

9:23 pm

LeslieAnn

gov is tight, but too early to call

9:24 pm

Nef

Are you watching closely? I'm flabbergasted by some of these other states

9:25 pm

LeslieAnn

the repub landslide? it happens in midterms a lot

9:25 pm

uusue2

Hi all!

9:25 pm

LeslieAnn

heya sue

9:25 pm

Nef

true

9:25 pm

LeslieAnn

frank wasn't up for election this time around right

9:25 pm

uusue2

Not watching the returns here although I am pretty sure Frank has won his race for county board (he was unopposed :-)

9:25 pm

Nef

Hi Sue. How are you?

9:26 pm

LeslieAnn

ha! well congrats to frank :)

9:26 pm

Nef

WTG, Frank! :-)

9:26 pm

uusue2

hi nef and leslie! I am doing pretty well. Need to write some more physics problems, but maybe tomorrow.

9:28 pm

Nef

I agree, physics problems can wait tip morning.

9:28 pm

Nef

TIL!!

9:38 pm

jesdraggon

hi nef :)

9:38 pm

uusue2

hi jes!

9:39 pm

jesdraggon

hey sue! we had a pretty pretty moon here tonight, all misty and glowy and eerie

9:39 pm

uusue2

ooh, cool! It was a bit misty here as well.

9:46 pm

jesdraggon

phantom kefir

10:03 pm

Nef

HI jes. (I was sucked in to the campaign reporting again)

10:24 pm

harpjane

I'm only happy with one election result, in the entire county. I'm feeling rather out of touch....

10:27 pm

Nef

which one, harp?

10:28 pm

jesdraggon

no worries, nef, i clearly got sucked elsewhere myself... watching a video of a total douche mansplaining spectacularly.

10:29 pm

Nef

I'm not sure what you were watching, jes; but I love the description! :-)

10:32 pm

jesdraggon

a CNN clip; there's a video going around of all the catcalling and come-ons a woman got walking around Brooklyn for 10 minutes. that video was being discussed on CNN and the guy had the rudeness and head-up-his-buttness to tell the girl that she felt wrong and that he is more of an expert on how women think than she is, and that women should be happy to be catcalled because it's a compliment. and if they're not happy about it, they should tell the guy so. when the woman pointed out that a girl in Detroit got killed for doing exactly that a week ago, he interrupted to tell her that she should carry a gun then.

10:33 pm

Nef

O.M.G. What a dumb butt he is!

10:34 pm

jesdraggon

he was thoroughly rude, interrupted her repeatedly, and didn't listen to a single point she made.

10:34 pm

Nef

I saw that video of the woman; WHY do men think it's okay to do that?

10:35 pm

jesdraggon

oh, and he said that the kind of guy who catcalls women is uneducated and classless, but that every single guy is looking and thinking the same things and therefore the guys catcalling and threatening women aren't wrong.

10:35 pm

harpjane

woo hoo, just found the f word

10:35 pm

Nef

So, even though he wasn't catcalling; he made sure she felt like she (and the feminine opinion doesn't count!

10:36 pm

jesdraggon

why? because apparently the opinions of women mean jack-all, and no man has ever told them to knock it off...

10:36 pm

jesdraggon

exactly

10:36 pm

harpjane

If men thought it was respectful, they would talk that way to their daughters.

10:36 pm

Nef

RIGHT, harp!

10:36 pm

uusue2

ha, good point, jane!

10:36 pm

jesdraggon

he was a perfect example of a well-spoken and educated sexist pig

10:37 pm

uusue2

(also got sidetracked into elections and other things)

10:39 pm

Nef

I know now that I put on a bunch of weight after a very humiliating experience in Washington DC in the 90's; I gained weight to avoid being humiliated like that again.

10:39 pm

jesdraggon

did it work? I've seen heavy girls get harassed just as much, though sometimes in a different way...

10:41 pm

Nef

I wasn't a girl, I was a "mom" after that. (my kids were 13 and 9 and they were with me at the time; that was the worst part of it. Catcalling and touching me while my kids were along; it wasn't good

10:42 pm

jesdraggon

so many things that make me wish I could re-arrange people's brains... course then I might get power drunk and who'd be able to stop me?

10:43 pm

uusue2

I'm old enough that it's been a while (and am also fat now although for different reasons), but I never did like the catcalls, horn honking, and (occasional) grabbing. Ugh.

10:43 pm

Nef

(we had to walk through a construction area with a narrow covered walk-through; I'm not sure if my kids "saw" it, when I spoke with my sone recently about it he doesn't remember; so I'm grateful of that)

10:44 pm

rururocks

I hate it when women paw me too

10:45 pm

Nef

we were on a family vacation; DH was back at the hotel resting and I took the kids out for some sight-seeing.

10:45 pm

rururocks

I mean.. jeez. grab your own husband's ass

10:45 pm

jesdraggon

yeah, ru? You probably get that a lot. must suck.

10:45 pm

Nef

oh, ruru; IF a woman DID grab you you'd be happy.

10:47 pm

rururocks

I hate it when they pet me like a dog

10:47 pm

Nef

Seriously, though, what has happened to our world that some men think it's okay to do that? I don't remember any of that sort of stuff when I was young (of course, I had a very sheltered life back then…)

10:47 pm

rururocks

I mean Wooof

10:48 pm

jesdraggon

how about when they blow on the back of your neck while you're waiting to pay your check at the bar?

10:48 pm

rururocks

or reaching in my front pocket for keys

10:49 pm

rururocks

women today.. they are so aggressive

10:50 pm

Nef

Are you wishing, ru?

10:50 pm

Nef

jes, I've never had that happen; but I don't go to bars either

10:52 pm

rururocks

it's not my neck i'm worried about jes :D

10:52 pm

jesdraggon

well, there are limited restaurant options here; i ate dinner, then took my check to the pay station at the end of the bar, and the guy sitting at the bar leaned over and started blowing on me.

10:53 pm

Nef

sue, I just read your caring bridge update. It's good news about Frank'spet scan; I hope the protein in the urine is just a fluke.

10:53 pm

jesdraggon

I glared at him and stepped away, and he freaking followed; stood up so he could get closer and did it again. when I told him to knock it off he got all butt-hurt and called me stuck-up.

10:53 pm

jesdraggon

but even if i was at the bar to get wasted, how is that remotely acceptable?

10:54 pm

Nef

Ewwww! That's disgusting! Did you threaten to report him for a possible Ebola case? 21 days of isolation should cool his jets! ;-)

10:55 pm

uusue2

thanks, nef! The protein in the urine is expected at some point with Avastin, I think; we'll see what it looks like next time.

10:55 pm

jesdraggon

it was a couple of years ago, so no, i just told him to go away. happily he was too drunk to bother following me out.

10:56 pm

Nef

I'm glad that was the end of that.

10:56 pm

rururocks

I did kinda think you were stuck up jes :D

10:56 pm

rururocks

:D

10:56 pm

rururocks

that wasn't me

10:57 pm

Nef

ru, I've heard from a good source that you ARE a gentleman (even though you pretend not to be one here)

10:58 pm

jesdraggon

too bad it wasn't the only time something like that's ever happened... and that I can easily be considered lucky that the sexist crap I've been subjected to is so mild compared to what other women get.

10:59 pm

rururocks

I am a gentleman actually

10:59 pm

rururocks

very respectful

11:00 pm

Nef

I hear you jes. I just wish the sexist crap would disappear

11:00 pm

rururocks

wonders who nef's source is

11:02 pm

Nef

A nice person here.

11:02 pm

jesdraggon

Nef's source is anonymous, ruru. :D pretty big fella on the internets.

11:04 pm

rururocks

I do love joking and jibbing around here though

11:04 pm

Nef

or it might be a feminine source too, jes

11:05 pm

Nef

ruru, I think you're of an age where you tease and flirt with some of us; but you do KNOW where the line is and you rarely cross over it

11:05 pm

jesdraggon

I think anonymous is rather androgynous, and prefers the pronoun zwe. :D

11:06 pm

Nef

I've never seen or heard of that pronoun, jes; but you are right about the androgynous

11:07 pm

rururocks

I don't try to flirt actually.. I love to joke around though

11:08 pm

jesdraggon

heh. the plethora of non-gendered pronouns is ever-expanding :)

11:08 pm

jesdraggon

and on that note, I'm off to shower and get ready for bed. Later, all.

11:09 pm

Nef

Niters, jes! Take care!

11:10 pm

rururocks

night jes

11:10 pm

Nef

ruru, flirt might be the wrong word; I'll go along with joking though. I do think you joke and tease women different than men; so that's why I chose flirt

11:14 pm

rururocks

no.. I'm an equal opportunity jokester nef

11:14 pm

rururocks

it's just that there are a lot more women here

11:15 pm

Nef

true, but you do address females different than males

11:15 pm

Nef

at this time of day, yes

11:15 pm

rururocks

I do? how so?

11:16 pm

rururocks

I'm not aware of it

11:18 pm

Nef

no,okay, your remark to jes (after she talked about a guy blowing on her neck)

11:19 pm

Nef

is kind of the "dirty old man" (but not TOO dirty) response that you wouldn't use anything like that when chatting with a man

11:20 pm

Nef

THAT is the line: you know how far you can go without getting in trouble

11:22 pm

Nef

does that make sense?

11:25 pm

Nef

(Now I scared you off….)

11:29 pm

rururocks

I guess so.. but that was kind of jes' humor too

11:29 pm

rururocks

she can get a little randy too

11:30 pm

rururocks

I think I may be turning into a dirty old man then :D

11:31 pm

Nef

true; but we all can get that way too. BUT, you do not cross into crass and downright rude & nasty, right?

11:32 pm

rururocks

nah.. I don't think so

11:33 pm

Nef

yes, ruru, but a nice dirty old man; one that can tease (and/or flirt - as in my first description)

11:33 pm

rururocks

I can push a few people's buttons unintentionally

11:33 pm

Nef

mostly guys, though, right?

11:33 pm

rururocks

no.. one.. mostly women to be honest

11:35 pm

Nef

really? I guess I've never seen it then (I haven't been around much lately though)

11:36 pm

rururocks

oh.. they usually leave in a huff.. not hanging around

11:36 pm

Nef

maybe you've lost your touch and have slid into the dirty old man category then! ;-)

11:36 pm

rururocks

life goes on

11:37 pm

Nef

true

11:38 pm

Nef

Are you watching the elections?I'm stunned now

11:41 pm

rururocks

no.. not following it this time

11:41 pm

jesdraggon

forgot to turn the monitor off... for the record, I am generally fond of ruru and not offended by the joking; there's a difference between joking comments exchanged between acquaintances and some rando throwing explicit words or behaviors at a girl and getting pissed when she doesn't reciprocate... i have seen people get huffy at things ruru says, but the same people get huffy at me, so ... ya know.

11:42 pm

Nef

right, jes!

11:42 pm

rururocks

very true jes

11:42 pm

rururocks

"generally"?

11:42 pm

jesdraggon

one thing you might watch out for though, ru, is that a conversation about being sexually harassed might not be the best place to make randy jokes...

11:43 pm

jesdraggon

well, i can't guarantee that you'll never/have never said anything i wouldn't be offended by. I hedge... :D

11:43 pm

rururocks

true

11:43 pm

rururocks

:P

11:43 pm

rururocks

LOl

11:43 pm

Nef

but (since you are up and responding) do you see the point I was making about how he usually doesn't cross the line into nasty?

11:44 pm

jesdraggon

hedge is my favorite plant. waffle is my favorite breakfast, you know how that goes :)

11:44 pm

rururocks

I do cut the edge of the cliff some times

11:44 pm

jesdraggon

oh, sure. i joke back, and enjoy it. but i do agree with you that the jokes are different when directed at women than men.

11:44 pm

rururocks

Well isn't that a gender thing?

11:45 pm

jesdraggon

i would NOT joke back with someone i thought was a creep. my usual tack with creeps is ignore if possible, shut them down hard and fast if ignore fails.

11:45 pm

rururocks

I am sure Dan2bit wouldn't want to think i'm hitting on him :D

11:45 pm

Nef

right jes!

11:45 pm

rururocks

or WHT :D

11:45 pm

jesdraggon

sure it is... so what d you have against guys that you won't flirt with them, ruru? you sexist man-hater.

11:46 pm

rururocks

um.. I'm not gay

11:46 pm

Nef

LOL, ruru. and you joke & tease with him as 1 guy to another; no sexual innuendoes there

11:47 pm

Nef

(I can't type fast enough to keep up here)

11:47 pm

rururocks

I am very pro-gay rights however

11:47 pm

jesdraggon

so? i'm not expecting to sleep with everyone that i joke or flirt with, so what does it matter if I actually find them that sexually attractive?

11:48 pm

rururocks

me too jes. Just because I think a woman is beautiful.. I don't necessarily want to take her to bed

11:48 pm

Nef

but do you go around catcalling them?

11:49 pm

rururocks

oh no.. never

11:49 pm

rururocks

that's crude

11:49 pm

rururocks

I would never

11:49 pm

Nef

see?

11:50 pm

Nef

OMG! Ark. voted to raise the minimum wage to $8.50 in 2017!!! Yikes!

11:50 pm

rururocks

isn't that a construction worker kind of thing?

11:50 pm

rururocks

now if they would do something about sleeping with their siblings

11:51 pm

jesdraggon

but when you start making divisions... when you feel free to say something to people of one gender that you would never say to people of another gender... maybe you should at least think through the reasons why that is, and if they are possibly sexist.

11:51 pm

Nef

or some jerk at a bar or just walking down the street or...

11:52 pm

rururocks

oh.. I joke around with my friends that are gay.. I don't really have the opportunity here to say something to men here.. they aren't here that ofen

11:52 pm

jesdraggon

because i know you don't mean to be, or want to be sexist. or racist, or homophobic, or otherwise bigoted. but it's really hard sometimes to avoid that kind of unconscious division of actions

11:53 pm

jesdraggon

i have clients, for example, who clearly respect my ability to pull calves and handle their cows. but the older gent constantly calls me 'sweetie' and i just can't help but think he'd never in a century call dr. steve that.

11:54 pm

rururocks

not in my real life jes. I am different in my real life

11:54 pm

jesdraggon

he obviously isn't trying to be offensive or sexist, but he is accomplishing it nonetheless...

11:55 pm

rururocks

Isn't that sort of a term of endearment and appreciation of your helpfulness ?

11:55 pm

jesdraggon

i'm glad to hear you flirt with guys too, ruru :) that totally increases your cuteness in my opinion.

11:55 pm

Nef

I hear you, jes. At the same time, that's another generation who didn't consider women to be on equal settings as a man. BUT they treated a woman with respect

11:55 pm

rururocks

Oh god.. I have these two gay friends. (one is hysterically funny) and when he and I get going.. it is unreal

11:56 pm

jesdraggon

i'm sure that's how he means it, but the fact that he would call steve "sir" or "doctor", and calls me "sweetie" in exactly the same situation? sexist. unconscious and unintentional, but sexist.

11:56 pm

rururocks

I'm actually pretty funny in person

11:56 pm

rururocks

I agree with Jes.

11:56 pm

rururocks

It's funny. I always speak to Doctors of all kinds with great respect

11:57 pm

rururocks

even when they tell me to call them by their first name

11:57 pm

jesdraggon

maybe so nef. but they pass that on to their sons, and i have other clients of same age or older that call me "ma'am" where they'd call Steve "sir". or call us both "doc" so it's not just a generational thing.

11:58 pm

rururocks

you are a bit in cowboy country though aren't you jes?

11:58 pm

Nef

jes, when my sister tried to get into the U of MN vet program, she was shut down because she was female. Our old vet got a bunch of his farmer clients (my sis was working summers with him) to write letters about her work and invariably they'd write something to the effect of "she does good -- for a girl"

11:58 pm

jesdraggon

though ... the last client that got all in my space and handsy on me was a little old lady, so...

11:59 pm

jesdraggon

oh, totally redneck rural-ville, ruru :)

11:59 pm

rururocks

that's what I thought

11:59 pm

rururocks

well.. that comes with the territory too then no?

12:00 am

jesdraggon

yeah, nef. the "for a girl" qualifier just pisses me off. is she good with the horses? then why does it matter if she doesn't have a penis? when's the last time they used their penis in animal handling?

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