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View Word List Saturday, May 26, 2018

FINAL SCORES

1754 mixi6
1754 aebmusica
1754 Funkylady
1754 Tulipp
1754 LeslieAnn
1754 bichon
1754 cybernan
1754 pat56
1754 kim m
1754 dart001
1754 Bonasa
1754 lazykoala99
1754 ZsaZsa
1754 skooj
1754 reneeo
1754 ddb4nana
1754 MelJewell
1754 paco12348
1754 Solitare
1754 rosalie4
1754 72 Temple Owl
1754 Grandma Barb
1754 earth
1754 Turt
1754 zoozzoom
1754 gapeach
1754 welki
1754 PMS
1754 ivesy3
1754 helenary
1754 GailMkp
1754 Alicia
1754 ch1212
1754 susanj2
1754 flashman1998
1754 anike
1754 msr
1754 Shirlockc
1754 shorty
1754 ursh
1754 helensgirlkid
1754 bubba218
1754 JBV
1754 lil*monkey
1754 ls1
1754 juniperberet
1754 maggiej
1754 parisla
1754 Tnarg
1754 Catie
1754 jimmel
1754 nanrde
1754 westford
1754 Brie11
1754 pabtrek
1754 Habes
1754 VDW
1754 Dorens
1754 KnightTime
1754 isles7
1754 Bremen
1754 Naches girl
1754 penquis
1754 Mercy
1754 joansiebone
1754 vashongin
1754 paintguy
1754 graciecat
1754 rururocks
1754 NatashaW
1754 navcad
1754 grannyg
1754 sammysmom
1754 dan2bit
1754 lynxxx
1754 nurse1000
1754 LuvWordGames
1754 davurs
1754 Vioxx
1754 CiociaJudy
1754 glittle
1754 dizgrannie
1754 Lizlin
1754 justice
1754 Jayk
1754 Aloyisius
1754 Kateq
1754 NANCY
1754 Mubner
1754 Sam
1754 daylily
1754 bojazz
1754 Dianne
1754 jessmom
1754 sandy211
1754 maccafixx
1754 roncook
1754 wordly wise
1754 Verve
1754 ARB
1754 mrloser
1754 stu mcc
1754 Sandieangel
1754 empty_search
1754 sprong
1754 scribekd
1754 marigold
1754 doseffing
1754 Andee
1754 grannyrose
1754 anus
1754 periwinkle
1754 ABJ
1754 claws
1754 SummerBreeze44
1754 McLeach
1754 flosey
1754 dromano66
1754 speedfreak
1754 clg47
1754 MollyL
1754 Tabbycat2
1754 dofith
1754 Kamanjah
1754 NonoNanette
1754 SunnFlower
1754 ItalianGreyhound
1754 broll
1754 JAM5
1754 lbdawger
1754 VolleymomDee
1754 Haz1558
1754 Hillsnow
1754 Smdnjv
1754 Chris P
1754 bpalosky
1754 pen
1754 bala
1754 Bogwoggle
1754 bookwomen
1754 pcal2
1754 bmb444
1754 montreal13
1754 DTins
1754 LoriP
1754 mo
1754 movieman
1754 TraderKate
1754 Vicuna
1754 Dippnall
1754 Jacula
1736 Nef
1683 angelinaxox
1552 cale
1474 smartemis
1467 hurshy
1441 broony
1425 Charm
1424 foamflower
1386 georgiaj
1366 Babbleybrook
1355 java2
1345 leen
1341 Frances
1312 Bugsaw
1311 Cathyar
1309 LonnieC
1307 SueMagee
1299 Deeha
1288 rabbasar
1286 balletslippers
1281 fuzzykoala
1273 bigbirdboss
1260 Dellen
1246 JW4975
1245 contrary1
1236 Lindrickway
1233 helenkeller
1231 zas
1228 nelleon
1226 JeeWhiz
1219 pors
1215 Biltong
1200 thesnark
1197 silversarah
1197 suzysuz
1182 car.eeyore
1175 Elle n
1168 uconn
1164 mom99
1162 rastapopolous
1161 Wolvie
1157 BettyAnne
1157 eliotl
1156 Inge2
1143 sugar
1141 m9f9l
1138 hego
1137 Hebe
1133 Gillie
1127 Uneaixoise
1126 therealblah
1125 RoseAnn
1123 Trotters
1114 Bethjt
1112 Talia
1107 elsbeau
1105 Jindigo
1097 asterisk
1090 Filomena
1089 deanoz
1088 epsurreal
1082 Fit2knit
1063 bethn
1057 BarbaraA
1056 Jivingjenny0
1052 ChampFit
1051 origami
1046 SuzeQ
1046 chrisk
1045 Jadee
1043 MLFAN17
1041 rubyfoo
1038 InTheRedwoods
1028 dc43
1023 kangabrat
1017 Wogoe
1017 ann
1013 daisy88
1011 tessagram
1009 jwr
1003 Robespierre
1000 Zadit
997 hoyamd
996 Riverdance
992 katmayo
990 sajarn
990 Sunrise
988 A*n*i*t*a
988 mirandapan
984 Soodle
978 Stephanaki
977 silentfury
974 Kallia
964 emd99
957 HarryHood
952 hyacinthe
948 swmbo
948 Winnah
944 poor richard
939 Leaf
933 rbud
933 jaxx7
926 jeanne314
922 yikeym32
918 Q
917 Rainiqui
911 Tomago
907 mkg
904 bonkler
898 inkydinks
897 little mim
894 Kithara
892 ladycece920
891 kittychan
884 bookgrrl
882 10s Gu
878 scatterbrain
878 arctictundra
877 o2baflyndog
874 Annette
869 sally
868 Rachway
868 skheiny
864 marilyn992
861 mama
857 mymuseisme
856 TedinDurham
856 donbee
854 Madyh
850 BerniceQ
845 witchy
831 wordplayer
827 svingy
821 Kaplan the Magne
820 torgone
812 chj
811 eieios
804 saphyre
804 poodletoes
802 melody17
801 aslindy
799 avril
795 dpomfr
791 katiemac
791 lawdoggy1
787 Michnick
786 Ouwachita
779 meliae
774 hep
768 VAjeweler
767 lexophile
763 Dragonfruit
759 eljay323
758 rolin
751 Kermiteer
750 Zombee
749 Angelsong
748 rkptbound
744 DRWED
740 MsCorvid
738 ziba
736 mayneman
735 MPittore
734 ella
733 obscurity
733 pigeonman
732 mummy
731 pianoman
730 sami1986
730 Trifioso
729 oregonmarki
729 Julie
727 cavalier25
726 aWolf
721 Snitkina
718 magazinemom
717 scouser
716 mightyquin
716 fratfitz
711 debgpi
710 Snowman31888
704 MaddyMadd
703 DR1965
702 Lindsay
702 Quiltergirl
700 duvaldfm
699 stefaneechi
698 mongie
697 wjb
697 funhs
697 invictus
695 merlypoop
690 DS927
683 redgirl1973
674 bookworm100
672 cookiepelli
671 Eva
670 Thulsa
670 pam
655 cg530
655 Gitel
654 Alycia
654 libarebel
645 MVA
643 smooze
642 kueenbee
641 momof4&pe
640 Dachef
639 emusing
638 jesdraggon
634 PappouTed
633 felicitas
632 fit1
627 OuliaGoolia
625 Scrabbler
624 iluvtigs
624 WCG
623 ypsigirl
620 redshoes
619 idicyidikat
618 sciencegeek
616 KayteeJay
614 coralily
608 mom82637
607 haggis
605 noki
604 macadam
601 jhb
598 mery9419
593 KenTropic
591 BLouie
588 PastorJ
578 jrr
577 Christini
569 JIMMORRIS
566 charliesmomuk
566 Sundaegrl
566 tceicher
564 JenMO16
564 8201girl
561 nursegladys
557 GrandmaS
556 MRSWHISKI2
547 MaryW
547 EllJay
544 Motek
533 gladius
530 Jon77
528 sukee
523 coffee
520 Glens
518 ginnie
511 Tinkerbell1
509 KrisE
507 piggys_rule123
506 squrell2
500 sandr
498 phandmd
495 jka
494 JFB
490 Reese\'s
484 caps
482 Jodeen
478 raane
466 potterylady
459 GMO
456 gino
455 fla
443 godthaab
438 Kukana
438 blueskies29
433 shdybr8
432 Oboequilter
427 eliwes
421 MumTT
415 Ostepop
413 Sidra
410 kjg
410 harpjane
410 pamrepton
399 Plebian
391 mabaker8
390 ChrissieDee
389 Strudders
386 skatt
385 amgreet8
384 Griffums
373 gemini_J13
372 Barb
370 cookiebaker
368 moule
367 LMblue
364 nadav
362 gdine
362 TXZinnia
357 rowlie45
351 Lib
347 tickymong
345 Nicholas Carter
338 #1
318 JudyHall
318 mickey2
315 greenery
312 frogface
311 mom23
310 marie
307 diann
290 Pinikula
289 Halser
288 jeanniejinx
287 Granvia
287 msg
280 marthas
275 TallMike
273 beachboggle
271 poreid
268 annie0128
261 Wesson
261 Frobert
260 rebeccs
258 jbp
258 smoove
258 TQ
255 GeekMan
252 freddie
251 JulesBradHen
250 Lady_Campari
247 heartyjessman
245 chixnlegs53
243 Rangerbill
242 Skug
241 jewwel
240 circe
238 EnigmaNeko
233 freakinandpeakin
232 rnp
225 Sugarblues
223 Valiant
216 Cube
215 Cosmoclarke
212 egbokmom2000@yah
208 Monnie
203 kathy sue
202 craftylady
200 Alleyn58
198 BlueFireFrog
191 kellyk
188 ChloeKat
183 ajsb
181 donnana
180 Nani80911
171 Mandy44
169 sarah6girls
163 hogg
161 Prinise
154 fuzzybunny
152 melonheadjujube
150 tsatch
147 Cennon
146 sallyann
144 stoningtoncat
144 Gobble1
144 Hawkins
143 Notheroldquilter
137 Luluskidoo
123 Flower36
120 Roman Ballerina
105 Slimboyveryfat
101 WinterRecluse
95 Christa
89 lynnet
87 eb229
65 tmeses
57 iiosefi
53 Buggie
53 sarcasticah
45 janeybird
42 rfeiler
15 brightspot
14 franciscrawford
9 Rel

ENTIRE CHAT LOG

12:03 am
hurshy

flippity flip - time was, a post at 12:03 would never be able to be the first of the new grid... sigh
12:06 am
Lizlin

Hi brushy, hi all
12:07 am
Lizlin

Sorry - Hurshy - stupid autocorrect!
12:07 am
gapeach

Hi Liz and Hurshy
12:07 am
Lizlin

Hi Peach
12:11 am
hurshy

lol
12:12 am
origami

HI brushy, all - seldom here at flip
12:13 am
Lizlin

Hi all
12:13 am
Lizlin

Sorry - that was meant to be hi Ori
12:13 am
origami

:D
12:15 am
vashongin

ha 7
12:16 am
Lizlin

he 7
12:17 am
origami

thanks vash
12:17 am
harpjane

found a mommy horse
12:17 am
Lizlin

Thanks vash
12:18 am
licketySplitAUS

Clues are up
12:18 am
vashongin

thanks liz :)
12:19 am
Lizlin

Thanks, Lickety
12:20 am
harpjane

thank you lickety
12:20 am
harpjane

found a buffalo
12:21 am
Uneaixoise

found a duck
12:22 am
harpjane

whoo hoo!
12:22 am
Uneaixoise

:-)
12:23 am
origami

I found an animal in another puzzle the other day and thought of harp
12:37 am
harpjane

Glad I am such an inspiration!
12:39 am
vashongin

finally found the fr8
12:39 am
Lizlin

WTG
12:39 am
Lizlin

Good to know what I'm looking for :)
12:49 am
hurshy

but i still haven't found what i'm looking for
1:05 am
rbud

U 2? me either.... ;p
1:33 am
TraderKate

ty vash, got it!
1:47 am
nurse1000

odea
1:54 am
nurse1000

oops, sorry
3:01 am
jhb

raws
3:01 am
jhb

Earned
3:01 am
zoozzoom

Wrong box, JHB!
3:02 am
jhb

Mare
3:02 am
zoozzoom

HELLO!! JHB...You will have to type these words twice lol
3:11 am
jhb

So sorry.just started. Typed in rhe wrong place. Wont do it again.
3:13 am
zoozzoom

Hey it was no problem, Jhb, I am sure we have all done it at some time or another. I know I have!
3:13 am
jhb

Thanks zoozzoom
3:14 am
zoozzoom

And if you were to do it again could you make sure it is from the bottom A :-)
3:15 am
little mim

an 5/10 close by
3:16 am
zoozzoom

Oh duh! How did I miss that one. Many thanks, Little Min!
3:16 am
little mim

you are most welcome
3:20 am
zoozzoom

Okay first run through and I have 43 left for later. Happy babbling everyone!
6:26 am
MollyL

Don't be af6 to finish up that bottom A
: D
6:33 am
marigold

wa miwa
6:36 am
MollyL

Gooney goo goo
6:58 am
rubyfoo

My computer screen suddenly went sideways yesterday and l couldnt get help until this morning.
6:59 am
MollyL

I've done that before Ruby. It is some idiot shortcut that you can click by accident. Really? Who needs a shortcut to turn their screen sideways?
7:01 am
rubyfoo

l think the nurse sat on it when she was giving me my shot
7:12 am
maggiej

en 7 any hints?
7:17 am
Uneaixoise

need that one too . . .
7:18 am
MollyL

To put a picture in surroundings
7:19 am
Uneaixoise

tx!!
7:19 am
MollyL

Une, is it time for the peach truck yet?
7:20 am
Uneaixoise

yep -- already there for awhile
7:20 am
MollyL

Ah, the tastes of summer. We had watermelon with breakfast.
7:20 am
Uneaixoise

peaches also at open air market next to the truck
7:21 am
maggiej

tyvm
7:21 am
MollyL

I am definitely going to our local peach farm this summer. Nothing better than fresh peaches.
7:21 am
Uneaixoise

have been loving TN strawberries too!
7:21 am
Uneaixoise

i agree, molly
7:22 am
Uneaixoise

off to nuke coffee . . .
7:57 am
maggiej

pa 5/23?
7:57 am
maggiej

pa 5/12 that is
7:58 am
LuvWordGames

change the last letter of pa 5/14 to a vowel
7:58 am
OuliaGoolia

287
8:00 am
MLFAN17

hello
8:02 am
maggiej

tyvm
8:07 am
MLFAN17

first column e?
8:08 am
LuvWordGames

ei 4/5, ei 5/12
8:09 am
MLFAN17

hi luv clue pls?
8:09 am
LuvWordGames

the 5/12 is the feathers of a duck and take the last letter off for the 4/5
8:10 am
MLFAN17

ty luv
8:12 am
maggiej

someone
8:12 am
LuvWordGames

thanks maggie, I was just working on that word
8:13 am
maggiej

oops
8:16 am
LuvWordGames

ar 7/32 please?
8:17 am
bichon

difficult to clue
8:18 am
bichon

*** Islands, off Ireland + ***er [from duck]
8:19 am
LuvWordGames

thanks, got it
8:20 am
bichon

yw
8:20 am
MollyL

It is a spider. Eek!
8:21 am
Shirlockc

*shudder*
8:21 am
LuvWordGames

ph 6/24 please?
8:22 am
bichon

sounds like old Egyptian leaders
8:23 am
LuvWordGames

thanks got it for fireworks :-)
8:41 am
Shirlockc

clue for the 8?
8:46 am
Biltong

fr8/65 - drawn or written without guiding instruments
8:46 am
Shirlockc

thx!
8:47 am
Biltong

yw :-)
8:47 am
moule

thx
8:48 am
cybernan

good morning everyone
8:48 am
cybernan

ty for the fr 8 biltong -- a 3fer for me
8:48 am
MLFAN17

ty bit
8:48 am
MLFAN17

gm cyber
8:49 am
Biltong

Hi Cyber.
8:49 am
MLFAN17

cani get a clue for the ei word on the first column e?
8:49 am
Biltong

yw :)
8:50 am
Shirlockc

think duck feathers mlf
8:50 am
Biltong

ei4/5 and ei5/12
8:51 am
MLFAN17

duh ty
8:54 am
MLFAN17

nbt and nbs
9:00 am
MLFAN17

af5?
9:02 am
Biltong

Don't have it yet, mlf
9:02 am
MLFAN17

ty bit
9:03 am
MLFAN17

sorry I meant af6
9:03 am
MLFAN17

oh I got it
9:03 am
MLFAN17

bit think scared
9:04 am
Biltong

ah, thank you
9:04 am
MLFAN17

yw
9:10 am
MLFAN17

ne6?
9:13 am
Biltong

mlf, extend the ne4/4 before it
9:14 am
MLFAN17

will look for that 4
9:14 am
MLFAN17

ty got it
9:15 am
Biltong

comes off the n in the last column
9:15 am
Biltong

oh, good
9:24 am
cybernan

fe 6 please?
9:24 am
Biltong

bye for now
9:25 am
MLFAN17

bye bit
9:25 am
rururocks

leg bone nan
9:25 am
penquis

nan.....like the hat only change the third letter....
9:26 am
cybernan

ty pen and ru
9:26 am
penquis

yw....
9:34 am
rururocks

anyone have the stats on the 8?
9:34 am
MollyL

Oh, I thought it was creamer you add to your coffee with your leg : D
9:35 am
MollyL

fr8/65
9:35 am
rubyfoo

What a pleasure! i maxed out at 70 words but with clues in the chog, i added 25 more.
9:36 am
rururocks

ty molly.. i'll look for it
9:36 am
MollyL

Notice Ru asked for "stats" and all I gave were stats.
Voila!
9:37 am
rubyfoo

My house is so full offlowers, ghat it's a littlee bit ike a funeral parlor
9:39 am
rubyfoo

There are supermarket flowers, a white bouquet of wild flowers fromyesterday's doog walk, and q lovely but ephemeral vase of peonies and roses from the garden.
9:40 am
rubyfoo

In thr kitchen l have 15 tiny patentedicine bottles, many fromBinghaamton (élixirs and such), each with its own tiny bouquet of wildflowers (weeds)
9:42 am
rubyfoo

lt's lovelu but the various scents are a bit cloying
9:42 am
cybernan

how do you get rid of the ants on the peonies?
9:43 am
kittychan

dunk them in water
9:44 am
rubyfoo

For some reason they don't have ants on the peonies here, unlike in mymother's garden when lwas a kid
9:44 am
rubyfoo

hi kitty
9:44 am
kittychan

hi Ruby!
9:44 am
kittychan

woops -gotta go, good to see you for a sec.
9:45 am
rubyfoo

This started out as a grim day, but being here has cheered me
9:45 am
cybernan

I thought the ones we have at our new house were bug free, but when I looked closely there were tiny little ants about 1/16 inch long crawling all over them
9:46 am
cybernan

a grim day, ruby?
9:46 am
rubyfoo

What color are your peonies? They'remy favoriteflower
9:46 am
cybernan

a pale pink
9:47 am
cybernan

the lady who owned this house previously loved pink --- every room was a different shade of pink.
9:48 am
rubyfoo

l have on sickly plant which provide one glorious magenta flower each year. The otherss are allmuch stronger
9:48 am
rururocks

omg nan.. that sounds awful
9:48 am
rubyfoo

sorry for the typos
9:48 am
rubyfoo

but cheerful
9:49 am
cybernan

I think peonies must like part shade and acid soil - this one is planted in front of a cedar hedge.
9:49 am
cybernan

it was ru -- took several coats of paint to cover it all
9:49 am
rubyfoo

l have noidea about the soil
9:50 am
cybernan

he 6/36 please?
9:50 am
doseffing

old silly tv show ... souind a donkey makes
9:51 am
rubyfoo

ty dose
9:51 am
cybernan

*!*~*!* ty dos
9:52 am
cybernan

any clues wanted before I leave?
9:52 am
MLFAN17

re clue for the fe 6?
9:52 am
rururocks

i''m good.. almost done too]
9:53 am
cybernan

frank sinatra's hat -- change 3d letter
9:53 am
MLFAN17

ty got it
9:54 am
cybernan

fe + not less but change last vowel
9:54 am
rubyfoo

56 left but that's good enough for this "non-perfectionist"
9:55 am
rubyfoo

bye
9:55 am
MLFAN17

I have 53 left
9:55 am
cybernan

bye ruby - following you out the door - hagd everyone
10:58 am
periwinkle

hi all. help with the fr8 pls
10:59 am
doseffing

... drawing without the using of guiding tools ... using only the things on the end of your arm
10:59 am
periwinkle

ty dose
11:00 am
doseffing

... thank you ... that's my first eight ... and I'm almost done ...
11:00 am
doseffing

7 oor 8
11:00 am
periwinkle

no 7's here
11:00 am
bichon

I don't understand the fr 8
11:01 am
doseffing

.. well I've only got 20 left to get ... and 5 of them are 7s .... ... ah well ... must be off to lunch ... good luck
11:01 am
periwinkle

compound word bichon
11:01 am
bichon

ty peri
11:03 am
mrloser

FR* Fr4/7 + HA4/6 not in prison + fingers are on your ??
11:05 am
origami

good morning - can someone please give me stats for the first column O
11:06 am
bichon

od 5/12
11:08 am
mrloser

OD 4/5
11:08 am
origami

Thanks
11:08 am
bichon

sorry
11:13 am
bichon

he 6/36, pls
11:13 am
MollyL

Name of a southern TV show
11:14 am
bichon

ty Molly
11:22 am
MLFAN17

I love that show
11:31 am
harpjane

What are the stats for the bottom A please?
11:36 am
origami

I have an 5/10
11:37 am
rururocks

af6/30 also
11:38 am
sammysmom

ok ..ok.. im up !
11:50 am
sammysmom

lovved the he clue/still took me a few minutes to figure it out
11:58 am
MollyL

I was af6 a player would say that
: D
11:58 am
MollyL

*Notice how I avoided saying so7
12:06 pm
sammysmom

heh
12:13 pm
car.eeyore

Clue please for AR 7/32?
12:16 pm
Deeha

member of the spider family (blah!!)
12:17 pm
LeslieAnn

lol deeha i imagine you grimacing as you clued that
12:19 pm
rururocks

did you pull that off the web?
12:19 pm
Deeha

I certainly did grimace!!
12:20 pm
Deeha

that one certainly has legs ru
12:33 pm
rururocks

sounds like a home spun tale to me
12:36 pm
MollyL

Deeha, you are in the grid today. Take the Babble Tiara and wear it proudly.
12:48 pm
Turt

clue for en 7,44?
12:53 pm
NatashaW

what you might do with a painting
12:53 pm
Turt

ty!
12:54 pm
NatashaW

yw!
1:01 pm
Deeha

so I am in the grid! I never even noticed
2:37 pm
flosey

pa row
2:40 pm
zoozzoom

Thanks for the AF 6, Molly. Just saw your clue earlier for it!
3:26 pm
Soodle

Very historic day in this part of the world. With a majority of 66%, Irish people have voted to repeal the 8th amendment to our Constitution, which bans abortion. This means that Irish women who have been given a diagnosis of fatal foetal anomilies will no longer have to travel to the UK and beyond for a termination. I campaigned long and hard for a repeal vote & I and fellow campaigners, whilst not europhhic (who could be europhic about abortion) are feeling quietly vindicated. I am very very proud to be Irish today.
3:29 pm
MollyL

I'm glad you got what you were voting for. I have a lot of comments about legalized abortion, some pro and some con. But that is a very heated topic so I won't set the chat log on fire.
3:31 pm
Nef

Congratulations, Soodle, for your hard work paying off. I can understand what you are saying;I can't imagine how hard it would be to find out that your pregnancy wouldn't be successful, but there isn't anything you could do about it in your own country.
3:33 pm
Soodle

In 1989, At 22 weeks pregnant, I was told that the baby I was carrying was 'not compatible with life'. I went full term with her, because I had no alternative, other than travel to another jurisdiction. I gave birth to her within earshot of of other mothers having live babies. My little girl never took a breath.
3:33 pm
bichon

Same from me Soodle
3:35 pm
Soodle

Typing through tears....
3:35 pm
Soodle

Typing through tears....
3:36 pm
bichon

I'm so glad I live in a blue state
3:37 pm
Nef

I'm Irish Catholic, and when I was pregnant with our daughter, we had to decide if the risk of having her (for both the baby's sake and mine) was worth whatever the outcome would be; and I know how hard that decision was for us. Both of us came through the pregnancy & delivery fine, however; but if my state or country ruled that abortions weren't allowed and we had decided that abortion was the only option, I don't know what I would have done.
3:37 pm
Nef

I'm so sorry to hear of your poor baby girl, Soodle! (((Soodle)))
3:39 pm
MollyL

Well, since the discussion is on...I'm all for abortion in situations when the pregnancy is determined to be fatal, or it is life threatening to the mother. However, once there is across the board, legalized abortion, it gets used as birth control. I have a problem with that.
3:40 pm
bichon

I'm glad that I have the freedom to choose.
3:40 pm
mixi6

They need to teach and have access to birth control. Prevention is much better.
3:41 pm
mixi6

but the option should still be there.
3:41 pm
Soodle

Thank you girls.....
3:41 pm
MollyL

There is plenty of education and access to birth control in the US. However, abortion is still used as birth control.
3:43 pm
bichon

That's a generalization.
3:43 pm
Nef

Molly and others, most staes that are opposed to birth control are also blocking access to sex education for teens and adults. Look at Texas; they now have the highest number of teen pregnancies across the nation; abortions and Planned Parenthood are not allowed.
3:47 pm
Nef

I worked in a proLife center for the last 6 years of my nursing career. If we taught sex education to womenwe had fewerr unwanted pregnancies. We were not allowed to even discuss contraceptives or abortion in our center; but we had nurse midwives who came & saw our clients there and if the client wanted "other options" (contraceptives or an abortion or sterilization) they were referred to other members of their OB practice.
3:47 pm
MollyL

I'm bowing out of this. It has become a "leftist" discussion with no room for alternate opinions.
3:47 pm
dan2bit

It's become a human discussion, in my reading
3:47 pm
Nef

No, Molly, I don't feel you should bow out.
3:47 pm
Soodle

Ireland, for centuries, was under the control of the Catholic Church. Today's vote was a kick in the ass to the 'men wearing dresses' or, as I saw them described today on social media 'cocks in frocks'.
3:49 pm
bichon

Molly, I appreciate your opinion, but unless you have the data o back it up, then don't say it
3:50 pm
Soodle

Applause for Nef & Dan & Bich's Post!!!
3:53 pm
Nef

Molly, I'd like to hear your opinion about abortion being used as birth control. Could you please elaborate more on this? The number of abortionsin the US is less than half of the number of abortions here in 1996.
3:54 pm
Soodle

I'm very sorry to have kicked this off. I'm home alone this evening & really needed to speak about the historic events of today. I'll slink off & quietly search for words now....
3:55 pm
bichon

Don't feel sorry Soods. I appreciate you opinions
3:55 pm
Nef

Please don't leave, Soodle. I think it's okay to talk about
3:55 pm
rururocks

(time for a pregnant pause?)
3:56 pm
Soodle

(((( love most Babblers))))
3:56 pm
Nef

LOL, ruru!
3:57 pm
Nef

(((Soodle)))
4:00 pm
Nef

One of the things that I have always found interesting is that men always blame to woman for getting pregnant; and they put the laws on the women. It's like THEY have Nothing to do with the pregnancy! And the woman is shamed!
4:03 pm
rururocks

I'm not sure I believe that nef
4:04 pm
Nef

Okay, ru, which part(s) don't you believe?
4:04 pm
rururocks

there should be more contraceptive options for men that are for men though and not leave it all as the woman's responsibility..
4:05 pm
rururocks

I was hoping this discussion would veer into a rubber match
4:05 pm
Nef

(I'm trying to discuss this topic, not argue)
4:06 pm
Soodle

True Nef! If you google Magdalene Laundries, Or 'Tuam Mother and baby homes' you will get a flavour of the truly shocking treatment of Irish women & girls in the not too distant past.
4:06 pm
rururocks

I think that both partners nowadays (generally) (mature partners that is) believe it is the responsibility of both people to prevent pregnancies and other issues.
4:07 pm
mixi6

men need to take a pill....
4:07 pm
rururocks

I agree mix.. it should be that easy
4:07 pm
Nef

The problem with male contraceptives is that in the past it *might* have affected their sex drive.
4:08 pm
TraderKate

There IS a pill for men... recently on market.
{{(( soodles))}}
4:08 pm
mixi6

That might help.
4:09 pm
rururocks

how does it work TK?
4:09 pm
Soodle

Please do the google searches I recommended.... you will then see what a monumental change today:
4:10 pm
Soodle

.... today's referendum decision makes..
4:10 pm
Nef

And for a couple that is done having children, (if you look at the difference between male & female sterilization), for a man it's a simple office procedure; whereas for women it's done under anesthesia and requires surgery (be it major or laparoscopic surgery) and a recovery time. Men don't want to be clipped!
4:12 pm
rururocks

no one wants to be charged with testicular manslaughter nef
4:13 pm
TraderKate

It's hormone based ruru, but I stand corrcted - still in human trials but excellent results. problem seems to have been that men metabolise quicker, so formulation needed to extend to 24 hour period
4:13 pm
rururocks

well..it's about time
4:13 pm
Nef

Soodle, I had heard of the Magdalene Laundries before; I didn't know they were still in existance so recently!
4:16 pm
Soodle

Nef...they existed in my lifetime. Not 100 years ago - utterly barbaric.
4:17 pm
TraderKate

https://tinyurl.com/yarsypbh
Guardian article, not too technical, but decent info about male pill.
4:18 pm
Soodle

And then, the Tuam Babies thing is altogether on another level.... Holy Catholic Ireland???? My Ass!!!!
4:18 pm
rururocks

I just hope it's well conceived
4:19 pm
TraderKate

Read about the Magdalene laundries too. They may have been referenced here before. Barbaric :(
4:21 pm
Nef

One of my sisters-in-laws was sent to a Catholic home for pregnant girls back in 1980 (it was my brothers' baby too, they were married the year after that); but she wasn't allowed to see her baby & only knew it was a boy because the nurse told the OB at delivery that "he wasn't breathing" (meaning the baby).
She wasn't put through the horrors that the Irish women were, but it took 21 years before they found out what happened to that boy. We now know him and there i s no mistaking that he is their child; but they missed out on so much of his life.
4:22 pm
Soodle

In the course of my work I'm dealing with the Tuam Babies..... government departments batting it between each other... nobody taking responsibility
4:22 pm
Soodle

Nef... that is heart-breaking.
4:24 pm
Nef

OMG, Soodle! That is horrid! (I'm reading about it now!
4:24 pm
Soodle

Septic tanks!!!!
4:24 pm
Soodle

Septic tanks!!!!
4:27 pm
Nef

Nearly 800 babies & toddlers died there; and about 1000 illegally sent to the US for adoption. Poor, poor babies!
4:28 pm
Soodle

Happy you read up on it Nef. Maybe you will get a feel for how much of a seismic change today's vote means for this country.
4:29 pm
Nef

Yes, I do. I'm just crying about those poor, poor babies. And this was a home run by an order of Nuns! Dear God!
4:32 pm
Soodle

I'm 57. When I was at school, many of my friends suffered 'nervous breakdowns'. It's only in recent years that it dawned on me that they were actually having babies, not nervous breakdowns... doh!!!!
4:35 pm
Nef

I never knew that the girls sent away to "help their sick relatives" were probably pregnant. Isn't it odd how the stories were told to explain their absences?
4:36 pm
NatashaW

{{{Soodle}}} So moved by your story and your dedication to making things better for women who come after you
4:36 pm
NatashaW

I first learned about the adoptions to USA when I saw the film Philomena
4:41 pm
Nef

I don't care for movies, Natasha, but it sounds like it's based on a book I might like to read.
4:42 pm
Soodle

Super movie, Natasha! And , yep!, I feel I have made a difference for my daughter's daughters. I'm happy to have been part of a cultural change.
4:44 pm
rururocks

(wondering if soodle's daughters will now have a bunch of sons)
4:47 pm
Nef

ru, whatever her daughters have, I hope they are wanted and loved & cherished.
I think that that is somethingthat contraceptives and abortions have improved
4:48 pm
PMS

could I haveclues for he5 and he6 please.
4:49 pm
Nef

PMS, there's an he 6/36, the he7/52 is a pl. It's an old TV show from the 60's
4:50 pm
LeslieAnn

you mean 6 and 7? how a donkey laughs?
4:50 pm
Nef

(there isn't an he5
4:50 pm
Soodle

Girls.... you all have been Uber supportive this evening. I needed support & vindication & Babble didn't fail me. Thank you all for the Private Messages & the online support. I am utterly exhausted after weeks of fairly contentious campaigning, so I'm off to bed. You guysare the best & I thank you all. Mwah XXX
4:51 pm
Nef

Good Night Soodle. Sleep well.
4:52 pm
PMS

Got them. Thank you LeslieAnn and Nef
4:52 pm
TraderKate

Niters soodle. Sleep well and deeply. Well done, you <3
5:01 pm
Nef

I have 46 words left, all consonants (which is rare for me)and haven't seen or monkeyed a new word in a long while. I'm taking a break from Babble & will be back after I do some housework.
5:15 pm
NatashaW

I have 1 left, s7. I am mortified by how long it took me to figure out ro5. That's the trouble with babblets - sometimes the thought that "it will be some weird word" distracts from seeing the REAL word (at least for me).
5:15 pm
doseffing

... then you'll be mortified by the so7 too
5:16 pm
doseffing

... a random person
5:16 pm
NatashaW

(hangs her head in shame)
5:16 pm
doseffing

... ain't that the way of it
5:17 pm
NatashaW

I had thought it might be some fancy word having to do with sleep! :-)
5:17 pm
doseffing

... sleep is almost always better with so7
5:18 pm
NatashaW

LOL excellent riposte
5:18 pm
NatashaW

well, my FW this evening are on the damp side... yet another round of thunderstorms approaches. We've lost power 2x already and my dog is having a nervous breakdown.
5:18 pm
doseffing

... hey ... I'm just delaying going out to finish the lawn ... ... there's always just one more word
5:19 pm
NatashaW

the good part about thunderstorms is, no one is expected to do yard work
5:21 pm
doseffing

... yeah ... but I've put it off so long ... that it's getting desperate .... ... but the thunderstorms are coming ... so maybe I can delay just long enough
5:47 pm
doseffing

... and done .... can't stall any longer ... 'til tomorrow
8:14 pm
Nef

back again. It's too hot here to mow; Our front yard has spread dandelions throughout the neighborhood I think (I don't like herbicides and it was first too cold to think of yard work; now it's been too hot the past 3 days (& sporadic rainstorms) so the dandelions grew & seeded and are standing about a foot tall (Darn mower won't start for anyone, so Thursday it was taken to be fixed.)
8:29 pm
origami

dandelion greens for dinner, nef?
8:37 pm
JenMO16

Hey everyone.
8:46 pm
origami

Hi Jen
8:46 pm
JenMO16

Hi origami!
8:49 pm
origami

Is your cat a Manx, jen?
8:51 pm
JenMO16

yes, she is
8:51 pm
JenMO16

she is also known as my sister
8:51 pm
origami

very pretty. We had a couple of calico manx barn cats when I was a kid. They were fierce.
8:52 pm
JenMO16

Calico is an inside cat, she loves her daddy but she doesn't care for me.
8:55 pm
origami

Cats are persnickety.
9:19 pm
HarryHood

hint for the bottom A?
9:21 pm
HarryHood

nm! nbt
9:25 pm
HarryHood

50 to go. I'm done with this grid.
9:27 pm
origami

af 6/30 and an 5/10
9:27 pm
origami

sorry, missed the nm
9:38 pm
gapeach

Good evening all. May I please have a clue for ar5-12? Thanks
9:39 pm
Nef

Hi again. I've been trying to fix my ancestry tree
9:40 pm
Nef

ar 5/12 is a member of the spider family
9:41 pm
gapeach


Thanks, Nef. Looking
9:41 pm
Nef

(I'm glad that's not a member of my family tree!) ;-)
9:49 pm
TraderKate

AR 5/12 spider family? are we using different grids? I have it as a smell/scent
9:50 pm
Nef

Oh, Shoot! I just clued ar 7/32! I'm so sorry!
9:51 pm
TraderKate

been there; done that... ;)
9:52 pm
TraderKate

Hello Nef, peach, and origami (and of course, all the lurkerz)
9:55 pm
Nef

Hi Kate. How are you tonight?
9:56 pm
gapeach

Thanks, Kate and Nef.
10:07 pm
gapeach

FW finally. Thanks for the help. Blessings
10:08 pm
Nef

YAY, gap each!!! WTG!!!
10:08 pm
Nef

I have 20 left; all r's and s'es
10:12 pm
TraderKate

Hi again, wandedred off to the kirchen for a minute and got swallowed up by a black hole - from which I have returned!!!
10:13 pm
TraderKate

Congratulations peach!!
10:13 pm
TraderKate

Congratulations peach!!
10:13 pm
TraderKate

Congratulations peach!!

10:14 pm
TraderKate

argh
10:15 pm
origami

I'm wandering in and out while I paint.
10:16 pm
TraderKate

what are you painting ori?
10:16 pm
Nef

Kate, at least your black hole is in the kitchen; tonight I feel like my mind is a black hole! I'm planning this family reunion; and went to Ancestry.com to track down some family members I hadn't found yet.
I have my family tree open so others may view it and 4 different people have added to my tree while adding to theirs; but there is a lot of weird duplicates and bad information on my tree now
10:17 pm
origami

A vase with wheat stalks, alums and a cotton stalk. A still life.
10:17 pm
Nef

Someone has me down as the mother-in-law of my husband's father!
10:19 pm
origami

Sounds like a rather inbred family tree Nef :-)
10:19 pm
TraderKate

you have to watch that Nef... if you can, isolate their added info until you can verify. People's memories aren't as good as they think. (and research can be written badly with wrong dates etc.)
It's next month, right? Is it to be in your town? I saw yesterday that you have to do all the legwrok for e-mails etc... big job- but it will be worth it!
10:19 pm
Nef

Where do you come up with the ideas of what you're painting, ori?
10:19 pm
TraderKate

So.... they have "aged" you a bit tooooo much? can you messge people to straighten it out?
10:21 pm
origami

Pictures I see, photos I take and other painters. I have some online teachers also.
10:22 pm
Nef

To correct it; I have to find out how many people added to my tree (there are 4 others, all from my husbnads' family); then about 5 steps for each correction (I think). I'm getting there; but I'd like to block them from adding
10:24 pm
origami

I envy folks with a large family. I hope you really enjoy the reunion.
10:24 pm
Nef

That's good to know, ori. When I sit downto paint; mymind goes blank and I can't think of any subjects at all. (But I do have some photos I've taken that would make great paintings!)
10:25 pm
origami

I am such a newbie painter, that my struggle comes with finding the right color combos to mimic the photo. But, I am getting better.
10:26 pm
TraderKate

gotta start somewhere ori, good for you for pickingit up!
10:27 pm
Nef

Kate, I'm not suree who the people are. I've just tracked their urls to that side of the tree.
10:27 pm
origami

I'll FB a couple of my paintings to you guys. Let me know what you think.
10:28 pm
Nef

You've shown me a couple of your paintings already, ori; I was so impressed & awed by your talent!
10:28 pm
origami

That
10:29 pm
origami

That's right. Thanks Nef. I struggle :-)
10:29 pm
TraderKate

That's be great ori. I will go loo for them. Haven't been on FB revently.
10:29 pm
origami

But, ya know. It is supposed to be fun. So sometimes I paint silly, funky, simple paintings.
10:30 pm
Nef

And ori, I have about 120 people who have said they are coming to the reunion; about 30 said they can't make it; and another 30 + that haven't made up their minds yet. And now today I just found the missing part of the family too!
10:30 pm
TraderKate

I guess there's no way to message them in the Ancestry site? (or keep people from adding until you okay it?)
10:31 pm
TraderKate

missing from where Nef?
10:31 pm
Nef

This may be too big of a family for you! (It's certainly starting to overwhelm me right now!)
10:32 pm
TraderKate

Sounds like a big tree Nef. Maybe keep it to direct lines back until you get stuck then work on one branch at a time. Helps with the crazy-making.
10:33 pm
Nef

My grandfathers brother had 7 kids; and until last night we didn't have any contact with any of them after he died in 1944. The cousin who started this reunion decided to go back to our great-grandfathers' family descendants
10:38 pm
origami

I am sure that I would love it. I do celebrate the family I have left - a niece and her children. I re-met them for the first time in 40 years in October 2016. Such a blessing.
10:38 pm
Nef

Kate, the one great Aunt onlyhad 1 daughter who never married. Another great aunt had 4 children but she and all of them died by age 43 (there is only 1 second cousin from that family; and she's going to come!) However, the remaining 3 had large prolific families; we knew that they existed, butnot so many
10:40 pm
TraderKate

That's a lot of people to keep tabs on... you need a FB group page for all of you.. then you can share what you find jfor the tree and stay in touch easier than e-mail...
10:41 pm
TraderKate

Where is that secnd cousing now? Far away?
10:41 pm
origami

A FB group is a good idea Kate.
10:41 pm
Nef

Wow, ori! That's a long time to go without seeing family!
10:42 pm
Nef

We did start one there back in November; a closed group so only people we let in can see it
10:42 pm
TraderKate

I am afraid to ask why your extended family is so small ori... glad you were able to get in touch with some of them -- especially after so long!
10:42 pm
origami

Well, I did have others in my family, who have since passed. But, yes, her father took her off when she was 2 years old and I only found her through FB. FB haters take note.
10:43 pm
origami

Kate - will message you.
10:43 pm
Nef

The 2nd (I think she's really a 2nd once removed to me) is from California
10:44 pm
TraderKate

Well, that's rottesdn... I hate to see the kids miss out on "family" because grown ups can't manage to get a along :(
10:44 pm
Nef

Agreed, Kate.
10:44 pm
TraderKate

OK ori. I will look in a bit. don't rush.
10:54 pm
TraderKate

Lived it, dodn't like it one bit :(
10:57 pm
Nef

Yep; been there too.
10:58 pm
TraderKate

sux, doesn't it?
Soooo how's the weather shaping up on yiur long weekend?
10:59 pm
Nef

Hot. Very hot. Possible thunderstorms. Humid too
11:00 pm
Nef

How about you?
11:04 pm
mkg

hi all. clues for the 8 please?
11:05 pm
grannyrose

fr8. fr, not a slave + not a foot
11:06 pm
TraderKate

Well, warm days (finally!!!) cool nights, right now no humidity. we were supposed to get 2 days of rain starting today, but nada here... though they did get it further north of Toronto and parts west... we will see. I am happy if it stays the way it is for a while. Haven't even gotten the veggies in yet. yard is finally dry enough to go out on the lawn.
11:06 pm
TraderKate

Hi granny and mkg :)
11:06 pm
grannyrose

hey ya kate and nef, and of course, mkg
11:07 pm
mkg

hi.
11:08 pm
mkg

ty for 8;. great clue.
11:08 pm
mkg

any 7s out there you can clue with stats? ty. have none yet.
11:09 pm
TraderKate

AR 7/32
11:09 pm
TraderKate

EN 7/44 (prefix word)
11:10 pm
TraderKate

HA 7/36
HE 7/52 (pl)
SO 7/32
11:11 pm
mkg

wow. ty. need time to gind them. ty.
11:11 pm
mkg

clues welcome
11:12 pm
TraderKate

AR is spider family word
EN has to do with mounting one of origami's artworks
11:12 pm
origami

Back to finish my painting and reading in bed. Good luck fellow babblers.
11:13 pm
mkg

huh? ok.
11:13 pm
TraderKate

HA is more useful around the house for DIY projects?
11:13 pm
TraderKate

niters origami :)
11:13 pm
mkg

boy am i lost.
11:14 pm
TraderKate

HE is an ol 70s tv program.. think pickin' and grinnin' with Buck owens and Roy Clark.
11:15 pm
mkg

ty kate. got that one. that is first one. cant find others. sorry
11:15 pm
TraderKate

SO is an indefinite person
11:16 pm
mkg

en is stumping me. en is a prefix word? or en is the prefix?
11:16 pm
grannyrose

ar7. a + not walked + vowel + h**, put in a secret place
11:16 pm
mkg

would love another clue to en 7 word ty.
11:16 pm
grannyrose

en7. en + what you put apicture into to make it look nice
11:16 pm
mkg

hid not in grid. confused.
11:16 pm
TraderKate

James Taylor wante to be your *****man..... for the HA.. then make it more*, not most*
11:17 pm
grannyrose

ha7. more of not the foot
11:17 pm
mkg

got the ar! ty.
11:17 pm
mkg

got the ar! ty.
11:17 pm
grannyrose

yay mkg
11:17 pm
mkg

looking for en.
11:18 pm
mkg

got en word. ty
11:18 pm
TraderKate

en is the prefix add a 5 letter word to do with a painting mount
11:18 pm
mkg

done. ty. off to sleep.
11:18 pm
grannyrose

sweet dreams mkg
11:19 pm
TraderKate

TY granny for posting decent clues :)
Congratulatins mkg, and good night
11:20 pm
grannyrose

*grin* kate.
11:21 pm
Nef

I wandered off again; I'm sorry
11:21 pm
TraderKate

(((granny))) <3
11:22 pm
Nef

Hi grannyrose
11:22 pm
TraderKate

No need to be sorry Nef... it's like Oz here, people come and go so quickly here ;)
11:24 pm
Nef

and my words also wander off; I KNOW I've entered several of these words before!
11:26 pm
TraderKate

I lost some too- at the beginning... but I may have been entering faster than my internet could take them up..Others habe mentioned this lately as well.
11:29 pm
Nef

I know I saw them in my list, the first 3 re4's all had to be put back in again.
11:32 pm
TraderKate

mine were all little fish too!
11:34 pm
Nef

crazy grid. (Kate, we'll end up crazy little old ladies muttering to ourselves in the now too distant future if we aren't careful!)
11:34 pm
TraderKate

sets you back. just whe you thinl you're getting somewhere... they go walkabout on you ;)
11:35 pm
Nef

yep! :-)
11:36 pm
TraderKate

Working on it Nef.. I need a vrazy cat lady starter kit :0
I was talking to myself all through the grocery store last time I was out... I must get out more ;)
11:38 pm
TraderKate

Babble will be the death of me too Nef...I was Babbling in my sleep a few nights ago - looking for RE and C words...not quite a nightmare
11:38 pm
Nef

I think that socialization might help all of usat times.
11:39 pm
Nef

Oh, MY! That's time to take a break from Babble then.
11:41 pm
Nef

I have 5 4 letter words left. Want to bet that I had them earlier? (the last 5 words I've entered have been words that I was sure I entered earlier!)
11:41 pm
TraderKate

It wasn't that bad - I was finding the words! Summer is here and it is high time for a bit of face-to-face action, indeed!
11:44 pm
Naches girl

My last word is pa12. Any cluers?
11:45 pm
Nef

pa 5/12 is first 4 letters the same as the other pa5, last letter is a vowel
11:46 pm
Naches girl

Parea
11:46 pm
Nef

try another vowel
11:47 pm
Naches girl

Thankyou!!
11:47 pm
Nef

YW :-)
11:51 pm
TraderKate

Hmmm.. where is matches these days, I wonder...
11:52 pm
TraderKate

Congratulations Naches girl!!!
11:52 pm
TraderKate

and s'mores.....?
11:53 pm
Nef

WTG, Naches girl. I totally missed that was your last word
11:59 pm
flosey

last word he7/52 giggle, and 5 minutes to go!!