Babble: Archived Puzzle for Tuesday, September 15, 2020

12:00 am

Rainiqui

te 7

12:01 am

origami

to7

12:02 am

origami

te7 x 2

12:02 am

justafreep

te7 x 2

12:02 am

justafreep

te7 x 3

12:05 am

origami

du7

12:05 am

ursh

ou 6 / 7

12:05 am

Rainiqui

so 8

12:06 am

dizgrannie

he 7

12:07 am

rastapopolous

ed7

12:08 am

rastapopolous

ride

12:08 am

jessmom

sl7

12:09 am

cybernan

si 8

12:13 am

cybernan

lo 7

12:18 am

cybernan

de 7

12:18 am

hurshy

Vowels Vanquished!

12:19 am

licketySplitAUS

Clues are up

12:20 am

jessmom

ne7

12:20 am

hurshy

ok what can i contribute

12:20 am

hurshy

er7/8

12:21 am

hurshy

night all... Consonants can wait :D

12:24 am

hurshy

and in case anyone wants it, the corner t is a te6/18

12:27 am

justafreep

de7

12:27 am

dizgrannie

nbt/nbs....he 9

12:28 am

cybernan

ou 7

12:30 am

cybernan

ne 7 x2

12:32 am

cybernan

ty diz

12:32 am

dizgrannie

yw Nan

12:40 am

cybernan

nbt/nbs and good night :)

12:47 am

dizgrannie

top row done

12:55 am

dizgrannie

er 7/8 if not called

1:55 am

Lewandjoy

Teehee?

5:10 am

MollyL

Wow, slow morning for me. It took me way too long to get that corner T.

7:10 am

periwinkle

good morning all. help with i above the u plse. and I do not see that corner T

7:11 am

BzznBea

id5.12

7:11 am

ChampFit

id 5/12

7:11 am

periwinkle

looking

7:12 am

periwinkle

well it is not ident

7:13 am

BzznBea

You will feel like one when you find it. =)

7:13 am

ChampFit

Exactly

7:13 am

periwinkle

I do, and I never see that word. thank you both

7:20 am

periwinkle

yay I found the corner T

7:25 am

bichon

peri, stats, pls

7:26 am

MollyL

The corner T has been in plenty of grids. My brain was just not seeing it. On the bright side, I got all 37 of the other T words while looking.

7:28 am

bichon

stats, pls

7:29 am

dromano66

can anyone help with the 9 please

7:30 am

BzznBea

The 9 is he9.60

7:30 am

dromano66

ty I will look

8:12 am

origami

good morning

8:13 am

BzznBea

Good morning, ori. Hope you are safe from the fires.

8:14 am

origami

I am safe. Thanks, Bea. We are pretty overwhelmed by smoke here, though not as bad as some places.

8:15 am

origami

Will you be safe from Hurricane Sally, Bea?

8:18 am

BzznBea

Yes. She will be just rain by the time she gets to us, if she does.

8:18 am

origami

Oh, good. I wasn't sure how far north the high winds will go.

8:19 am

MollyL

It has been a rough hurricane season for the folks in New Orleans.

8:20 am

BzznBea

I can't believe there have been so many that they are at T.

8:20 am

origami

Yes, I feel for those folks.

8:26 am

BzznBea

Done here for the day...Got to get ready for another meeting. Until next time.

8:37 am

MLFAN17

this grid feels like almost no words

9:58 am

phaeton

FW

10:10 am

cybernan

good morning all -- been trying to get news on the CA/OR/WA fires, but nothing on TV yet --- all we have is the smoke! Glad to see you back and safe ori -- no word from ruru yet?

10:12 am

MollyL

Ru is fine, I heard from him last night.

10:13 am

cybernan

oh - good to hear - ty molly

10:17 am

MollyL

You're welcome Nan. I was just reading about an anti-Trump mini series that you will probably love.
: D

10:18 am

cybernan

that man angers me so much that i turn the TV off whenever he appears

10:18 am

Uneaixoise

Ditto, Nan!!!!!!

10:18 am

cybernan

I don't know how any human being can be so bloody deceitful and callous

10:18 am

MollyL

I love Brendan Gleeson and he really nails the part of Trump.

10:19 am

Uneaixoise

And cruel!!

10:24 am

emtiandeca

Why do women support him?

10:26 am

hurshy

it is an interesting psychological question

10:27 am

hurshy

like if you watched Jordan Klepper (comedian) interviewing people at some pro-trump event, asking them about Trump's blatant statements about his ability to assault women, they would say "oh it's just locker room talk" and he would ask, "so does your husband/brother/son talk like that?" and actually as i recall they said "no"... i think that people often don't follow their own logic through...

10:28 am

cybernan

why do self professed Christians support him? He is the least christian-like person I could think of

10:29 am

cybernan

we need a de 6 key for bad political leaders (or non-leaders)

10:29 am

hurshy

well they've kinda lost the plot. i think a lot of them have redefined Christianity beyond recognition. others just think all that matters is getting conservatives onto the Supreme Court and overturning Roe v Wade to make abortion illegal.

10:29 am

emtiandeca

Yet those same people will point out that Biden was sniffing a girl's hair or kissed his granddaughter on the lips and bring his morals into the antiBiden talk.

10:30 am

emtiandeca

I agree cybernan

10:31 am

moolingwa

morning all

10:32 am

emtiandeca

Every day I get a propaganda post card from the Republican party that "Joe Biden and the radical left are attacking our values. Their agenda is clear." What values? Trump has none.

10:32 am

emtiandeca

Morning moolingwa

10:32 am

moolingwa

hey em, happy Tuesday

10:33 am

hurshy

well, one of the values would be to do with abortion, and another would be their right to have nothing to do with anyone LGBTQ+, and basically anything they perceive as diminishing the dominance of "white Christian America"

10:34 am

hurshy

they have this idea that if LGBTQ+ stuff is very open and discussed in society, that it will cause their children to be gay or "experiment" with it

10:35 am

cybernan

don't forget the right to carry assault weapons that all those Christians seem to think are necessary

10:36 am

hurshy

well, that's one subset, i don't think it's all of them

10:37 am

moolingwa

There's certainly a number of constituencies

10:37 am

emtiandeca

You summed it all up with the word "white". I have guns but see no need for assault weapons.

10:37 am

MollyL

Women would be very surprised how their husbands, sons and lovers talk when they are out of earshot of women. Or around women who are not all frilly about such things.

10:37 am

hurshy

my experience coming from an evangelical background included everything i've mentioned below, but did not include anything about guns.

10:37 am

emtiandeca

You summed it all up with the word "white". I have guns but see no need for assault weapons.

10:39 am

moolingwa

My wife's family has a number of Republicans...but the reasons vary

10:39 am

moolingwa

Her uncle in Wisconsin is in the timber industry, so is directly impacted by environmental policy

10:40 am

emtiandeca

One of my ex-church family members stood up one day and quoted that man shall not sleep with man. I burst out laughing and wanted to say, "it also says that your married daughter will not sleep with the firefighter but she does."

10:40 am

moolingwa

On her father's side, they're from Cuba, and so the way the US government isolates Cuba, as well as the abortion issue (and for at least one - the gun issue) or contribute

10:42 am

hurshy

they think republicans are less likely to isolate Cuba?

10:42 am

moolingwa

My mother-in-law and her husband live in a relatively conservative area, he comes from a Mormon family and I think it's more the "lesser of two evils" for them

10:42 am

moolingwa

No, Trump rolled back Obama policies that were opening up to Cuba

10:43 am

moolingwa

The older generation of Cubans who came over following the revolution see it as a black-and-white issue for the most part

10:43 am

hurshy

are there any DR words?

10:43 am

moolingwa

I will say that most people I talk to about politics tend to vote emotionally rather than based on thought and information...that's not limited to one side or the other

10:43 am

MollyL

I won't play the "lesser of two evils" game. If I don't believe in either candidate, I will not vote. And I have not voted in a long time.

10:44 am

cybernan

I can understand why a person would own a gun to hunt for food or for self-protection in a wilderness area, but I do not see why joe citizen needs a handgund, a repeating rifle or a weapon the fires multiple rounds in seconds. No wonder there are so many violent deaths when so many people, in a fit of rage, can pick up a gun and shoot.

10:45 am

hurshy

well cnan, that's more to do with the fact that the NRA, which started off as a reasonable association that provided training and whatever, has become a force that lobbies on behalf of the gun INDUSTRY, which of course does not want any limits on any type of gun or ammunition.

10:45 am

MollyL

Nan, have you ever been mugged? Had your house broken into?

10:46 am

moolingwa

My wife's uncle, a former marine, really, honestly believes he will need his handguns for protection against a personal physical attack

10:46 am

cybernan

of course not -- put neither requires a gun on my part -- pepper spray works and there is no chance that a criminal would turn a gun that I held against me

10:47 am

moolingwa

On the other hand, I've been robbed at gunpoint, and have been beaten up before...but I'm not in favor of guns personally

10:47 am

MollyL

People often buy weapons for protection when they feel their security has been threatened.

10:48 am

moolingwa

Around 30% of adults in the US own guns, so it's pretty prevalent

10:48 am

MollyL

It is in the US Constitution that people have the right to bear arms. Until they revoke that, people who want to have guns will have guns.

10:49 am

MollyL

30% is prevalent?

10:49 am

cybernan

Again - I think there are better options. Mind you, I have never lived in a particulary violent area.

10:49 am

hurshy

compared to other countries, molly, yes, 30% is prevalent.

10:50 am

moolingwa

well around 45% of households

10:50 am

KnightTime

I own over 40 guns

10:50 am

cybernan

The right to bear arms does not mean one must bear arms. Also, when that was written into the constitution, they weren't talking about the weaponry of today.

10:50 am

moolingwa

There are more privately owned firearms in the US than the entire population

10:51 am

hurshy

and 3% of the US population owns 50% of the guns that are owned overall

10:51 am

cybernan

Do you think everyone should have a nuclear weapon in their front yard? Those are arms.

10:51 am

MollyL

They were not talking about anything "of today" when they wrote the Constitution.

10:51 am

moolingwa

120 firearms per 100 Americans, the next highest is the Falkland Islands which is at 62. Yemen is third at 53 per 100.

10:52 am

KnightTime

a nuclear weapon is not a "bearable" arm.

10:52 am

MollyL

I was just about to say that Knight.

10:53 am

moolingwa

But aside from that, the court system in the US has created some limits on "arms" drawing the line at things like grenade and rocket launchers

10:53 am

cybernan

Ideally we would live in a world where the only arms "borne" are the ones attached to one's body

10:53 am

KnightTime

and some arms are controlled by the NFA - automatic weapons and suppressors for example

10:53 am

hurshy

i am a pacifist and would rather be killed than take up arms against a fellow human being.

10:54 am

KnightTime

nan- tell that to the guy mugging you or raping your daughter

10:54 am

moolingwa

Plus there are some additional state and local restrictions depending on the juristiction

10:54 am

KnightTime

and I am not a pacifist

10:55 am

cybernan

until weaponry suitable for the police or armed forces are removed from the general public we will continue to have tragically violent events -- and the situation is getting worse. Something has to be done.

10:55 am

MollyL

People do not understand the instinct for self preservation until they are put in circumstances where it is tested. Many who have lived a blessed life have never been in such circumstances.

10:55 am

KnightTime

nan- that is simply not true, not logical, and not supported by any scientific evidence

10:56 am

cybernan

We know that knight -- I just don't understand how you can reconcile that with being a Christian, when the very basis of Christianity is peace.

10:56 am

KnightTime

So now you are a theologian?

10:56 am

hurshy

for the first few hundred years after Christ, it was definitely assumed that if you were Christian you had to be a pacifist. i think we should have stuck with that.

10:57 am

KnightTime

hurshy - there is no historical evidence for that statement

10:58 am

MollyL

People have been going to war in the name of God since there were Gods and people.

10:59 am

cybernan

yes they have Molly -- a truly deplorable situation

10:59 am

cybernan

That doesn't mean we have to support it, though

10:59 am

hurshy

uh, yeah, there is knight.

11:00 am

KnightTime

Not only that but Yaweh sanctioned violence

11:00 am

KnightTime

hurshy - please provide a reference

11:01 am

KnightTime

Jesus told his disciples to have a sword

11:01 am

cybernan

I don't think God sanctioned violence

11:01 am

cybernan

I think you are deleting the context, knight

11:01 am

KnightTime

I did not say God, I say Yaweh - Jehovah - the deity of the Old Testament

11:02 am

cybernan

Yaweh, Jehovah, God -- all names for the same deity

11:03 am

KnightTime

Numbers 31:16-18 is one of many examples

11:05 am

hurshy

yeah, the OT God definitely is presented as having sanctioned and even ordered violence.

11:05 am

hurshy

but it's interesting that while Jesus said to have a sword, when Peter USED it, he rebuked him and healed the victim's ear.

11:06 am

KnightTime

true

11:07 am

hurshy

by the way nobody answered my question:
are there any DR words?

11:07 am

moolingwa

I haven't found any

11:07 am

moolingwa

have 8 d's remaining

11:08 am

KnightTime

no DR words

11:08 am

hurshy

i only need 3 d

11:08 am

moolingwa

well 4 D's remaining now

11:08 am

hurshy

ok thanks knight

11:08 am

KnightTime

de,di, du

11:08 am

MollyL

I wanted druid, but only one D

11:08 am

hurshy

same here

11:09 am

hurshy

ok he7 is a bit of a linguistic stretch

11:09 am

moolingwa

I feel like I'm in the minority here...I didn't want druid

11:09 am

hurshy

he7/52 that is

11:10 am

hurshy

lol mool

11:10 am

moolingwa

tx for the stats hursh

11:11 am

MollyL

What? Are you suggesting there is something wrong with druids? Do we need to have The Discussion?
: D

11:12 am

moolingwa

Oh no, I'm quite fond of Getafix and I did go through a phase of reading King Arthur fiction, but to extend that to "wanting" just seemed a bridge too far

11:13 am

hurshy

wanting words to be in the grid isn't really related to anything like that tho

11:14 am

hurshy

it's a desire that is separated pretty completely from the actual meaning of the word

11:14 am

moolingwa

oh hursh

11:14 am

hurshy

at least that's how i am :D

11:15 am

MollyL

Well, at least there are no J words today
: D

11:15 am

moolingwa

or words that have a second letter as j

11:15 am

hurshy

nono, the real thankfulness is that there are no GJ words!!!!

11:16 am

hurshy

we get lots of scottish things but not many norwegian

11:16 am

moolingwa

I admit, I looked that one up...

11:17 am

MollyL

Leave it to the Enable word nerds to include words that start with gj

11:17 am

moolingwa

wonder if there's any other gj words

11:17 am

hurshy

phatom: tolerant

11:18 am

hurshy

that's easily determined by morewords, mool - and the answer is no, just that one and its plural.

11:18 am

moolingwa

A cursory look suggests no, there's just the one and it's plural

11:18 am

MollyL

Lots of other words, none of them English

11:19 am

hurshy

sil8 makes me giggle

11:20 am

moolingwa

because it's grammar's worser

11:20 am

Jo CA

There's only 1 word that begins 'tm....'; and it's fan-freaking-tastic...

11:21 am

moolingwa

there's some word passion right there

11:21 am

MollyL

Again, there are more words that begin with tm

11:21 am

moolingwa

I kind of like miaoued...it has all the vowels, and there's five vowels in a row

11:22 am

moolingwa

sequoia too for all vowels

11:22 am

Jo CA

Oh. Probably should've stated '1 word that I'm currently aware of'...

11:22 am

moolingwa

cooeeing has the five straight vowels, but less interesting IMO

11:22 am

Jo CA

Cyzygy was always a personal favourite for non-vowels

11:23 am

hurshy

it's not just because we were told that you don't make comparatives with -er on multi-syllable words, it's also that, i mean, it's either si6 or it isn't, right? it means the absence of all noise

11:23 am

moolingwa

oh yeah, zyzzyvas is another fave

11:23 am

Jo CA

Definitely looking that one up right now...

11:23 am

moolingwa

though the etymology is more interesting than the entomology

11:24 am

penquis

i agree with you, Hursh.....St. Saint Paul is rolling over in her grave on that one....

11:24 am

moolingwa

maybe it's someone who silents :)

11:24 am

moolingwa

oops....sorry

11:24 am

penquis

always good stuff in the PB....

11:25 am

hurshy

i'd be posting a gif of someone looking skeptical right now if we could post gifs here

11:25 am

moolingwa

if we could post gifs here, not sure we'd see much else ;)

11:25 am

moolingwa

well, going to take a break...50 to go, so seems like a good place to pause

11:26 am

penquis

i changed my icon a few days ago.....it appeared yesterday but today it's reverted back to the old one....weird....

11:27 am

penquis

i am not enjoying this grid too much....

11:27 am

MollyL

I see the red lobster

11:27 am

penquis

not me....but thanks for letting me know....

11:27 am

hurshy

for the seafood lover in youuuuu

11:27 am

MollyL

You can't be si8 just like you can't be nuder or nudest

11:28 am

penquis

or pregnanter... ;o)

11:28 am

hurshy

idk, i mean, if you're 8 months preg you're arguably more preg than someone 3 months along

11:29 am

hurshy

in one sense

11:29 am

penquis

not the way I see it....

11:29 am

MollyL

If I am six months pregnant and you are three months pregnant, aren't I pregnanter than you?
: D

11:30 am

hurshy

in one sense you obvs just are or you aren't

11:30 am

penquis

with that reasoning, if i am si 6 longer than you are, then i can be si 8....

11:30 am

hurshy

so that's a mixed

11:30 am

MollyL

People say blacker all the time, yet black is the absence of all color. How can it be more so?

11:31 am

hurshy

i guess because we use these words when they aren't actually true

11:31 am

penquis

well some things that are black seem darker than others...

11:31 am

MollyL

No, you are not si8, you have just been si6 longer

11:31 am

hurshy

like we say something is black when it's maybe technically very dark grey and we can't see the diff, or we say things are si6 when they aren't, they are just pretty quiet

11:32 am

hurshy

so that opens the door for these silly comparatives

11:32 am

MollyL

People use fake words all the time. Just read Facebook.
: D

11:32 am

penquis

LOL...

11:34 am

hurshy

Ns Nailed!

11:35 am

hurshy

Ls Lampooned!

11:35 am

MollyL

My question is why was a gj word so astonishing when no one flinches a fjord?

11:36 am

penquis

we've seen fjord before but not gj words....

11:36 am

hurshy

because we've HEARD OF fjords

11:37 am

MollyL

*Thinks Hurshy goes around her house saying Dishes Done! Dressers Dusted! Eggs Eaten! Fish Fed!

11:37 am

hurshy

name that proper noun! WWII Riveter

11:37 am

MollyL

Rosie

11:37 am

hurshy

ding ding ding!!!

11:37 am

MollyL

I was sure you were going to do the Plaza Hotel girl first

11:38 am

hurshy

well i remember doing that one not long ago, so i passed

11:44 am

hurshy

ok, finished my initial walk through the grid, 18 words left

11:44 am

hurshy

i did not find the 9, anyone know what that is?

11:44 am

MollyL

he 9/60

11:45 am

hurshy

does it start with the "not the same as" 6?

11:46 am

cybernan

yes

11:46 am

penquis

ty nan....

11:47 am

hurshy

yay thanks got it

11:47 am

hurshy

but, i was hoping for an 8/9 combo since i also need one more 8

11:47 am

cybernan

clue for the re 6-7 that follows the gizmo that the fishing line is wound on

11:48 am

hurshy

i have er8, he8, and the amusing si8

11:48 am

cybernan

please?

11:49 am

penquis

i don't think i have that yet....

11:49 am

hurshy

hmm, idk cnan, i have a 6 there but no 7

11:49 am

dcseain

i have a past tense

11:49 am

dcseain

and to keep trying

11:50 am

dcseain

and a plural

11:50 am

hurshy

yeah there's the past tense of the gizmo, then the plural, and then after that i have the one where you are being firm but then you change your mind and re6

11:50 am

cybernan

*following the plural gizmos

11:50 am

Vicuna

After all the variants of the fishing gizmo is to put the stillettos back on the shoes

11:50 am

cybernan

ty vic

11:50 am

hurshy

ooh well didn't have those

11:50 am

dcseain

he re6 on it.

11:50 am

hurshy

wait, i don't know if i have "to keep trying"

11:51 am

dcseain

i think i misdefined that one.

11:51 am

hurshy

ok

11:51 am

hurshy

just missing one more R and was hoping that was it lol

11:52 am

hurshy

one more bottom R that is, i also need one more top one

11:52 am

cybernan

*!*~*!* a lot of words I've never seen before, but monkeyable with the list

11:52 am

hurshy

so the fourth 8 besides er8, he8, and si8 is...?

11:52 am

dcseain

yay nan!

11:53 am

cybernan

hu

11:53 am

periwinkle

help with er8 or he8 please

11:53 am

cybernan

oh no that is a y

11:53 am

periwinkle

looking for the he9

11:54 am

hurshy

a y?

11:54 am

dcseain

he8 is plural of he7, which bilds on he4.5

11:54 am

penquis

peri...extend the he 6/7...

11:54 am

periwinkle

I do not have he6/7

11:54 am

hurshy

my brother is gay, but i have a he9

11:54 am

hurshy

hahahahaha

11:55 am

periwinkle

I have an he6/21

11:55 am

hurshy

yes, that's what the 9 starts with

11:56 am

periwinkle

ok

11:56 am

hurshy

and so my pun should hopefully help you

11:56 am

penquis

there are two he 6/21 words.....builds off the second one....

11:56 am

hurshy

my BROTHER is gay, but i have a he9...

11:56 am

cybernan

8's: er, he, si, so

11:56 am

penquis

there could be more of those, too....

11:56 am

hurshy

ah thanks nan will look for the so

11:57 am

cybernan

you may need to self-isolate to find it

11:57 am

marksdolly

ty hurshy, the pun helped!

11:57 am

dcseain

LOL hursh

11:58 am

periwinkle

hursh your pun is not working for me :(

11:58 am

hurshy

thanks nan

11:59 am

hurshy

what's the opposite of a brother, peri?

11:59 am

penquis

he is not gay....he is a he^^^^sexual.....

11:59 am

cybernan

add a sibling to the he 6 peri

12:00 pm

cybernan

lobster season opened, pen?

12:00 pm

periwinkle

ah now I get your pun hurshy, thanks all

12:00 pm

penquis

been open all summer....

12:01 pm

cybernan

oh - thought it didn't open til fall

12:01 pm

penquis

nope....

12:02 pm

hurshy

i need re6 right before "make a knot again"

12:02 pm

penquis

the season is most active from June to December, but a lot of lobstermen work almost year round....

12:02 pm

cybernan

any other clues wanted before I start my day?

12:02 pm

hurshy

ooh pulled a peri

12:02 pm

periwinkle

does the he8 start the same way?

12:02 pm

cybernan

(don't know why I am worried about that -- between covid and the smoke, we are housebound

12:02 pm

hurshy

no, he7/8 is a combo meaning... to make someone into a savior-type-person

12:03 pm

periwinkle

hmm thinking

12:03 pm

MollyL

He ain't heavy, he's my sister

12:03 pm

hurshy

ri6?

12:03 pm

cybernan

no -- the he 8 is to glorify an he 4

12:04 pm

penquis

weird word....

12:04 pm

cybernan

if you put an st infront of the ri 6 it would be harsh

12:04 pm

periwinkle

I have no idea

12:04 pm

periwinkle

what about the so8?

12:04 pm

hurshy

thanks nan!

12:04 pm

hurshy

emily dickinson lived a life of so8

12:05 pm

penquis

peri....person who rescues people .....add a verb ending....

12:05 pm

penquis

my clue was for the HE....

12:05 pm

periwinkle

she did indeed ty hursh

12:06 pm

cybernan

so 8 = self-isolation

12:06 pm

hurshy

i just realized i don't know WHY she did

12:06 pm

hurshy

did she have some kind of a disease that prevented her from going out much?

12:06 pm

cybernan

she must have loved her own company

12:07 pm

periwinkle

ty for he8

12:07 pm

cybernan

or was extremely shy

12:07 pm

penquis

yw....

12:10 pm

cybernan

emily d. was an epileptic and feared having a seizure in public apparently

12:11 pm

penquis

interesting...

12:11 pm

hurshy

my quick search suggests there was a combo of depression, taking care of her sick mother, and her own sickliness

12:11 pm

periwinkle

I did not know that she was an epileptic

12:12 pm

cybernan

lol - we obviously used different search engines :D

12:13 pm

penquis

i remember playing a game years ago with Google....enter three words and try to get the fewest hits.....had one once with one hit.....couldn't play that now....

12:15 pm

cybernan

helps to narrow things down if you link the keywords with a +

12:15 pm

penquis

that is what i used to do....but now there are so many ads that appear for no good reason....

12:16 pm

cybernan

on my way -- hagd everyone - stay safe - and if you live in the west, pray for rain :)

12:17 pm

penquis

bye, nan....

12:20 pm

periwinkle

tough grid for me and I will spit on anyone who says it is easy peasy :-)

12:20 pm

penquis

LOL...me, too, peri....not a fun one for me....

12:20 pm

moolingwa

no argument (under threat of phlegmatic response)

12:21 pm

periwinkle

haha

12:23 pm

moolingwa

33 left here

12:24 pm

periwinkle

82 left

12:24 pm

penquis

72 here....very slow going now....

12:24 pm

periwinkle

dent

12:25 pm

penquis

i think i need a break....bbl to finish....

12:28 pm

periwinkle

bbl

12:44 pm

MollyL

*Wants to see Peri spit on someone

1:40 pm

Aussieme

Nice profile pic Molly! *lifelong skins fan here*

1:54 pm

hurshy

i can understand that people have a fondness for things they grey up with, but surely that is less important than the principle that you don't get to commit genocide on a group of people and then turn around and use a stereotyped image and slightly derogatory name for them as a team mascot...

1:56 pm

hurshy

(the chog seems rather empty at the moment, so if i go away and people pick up the thread of this conversation and i don't respond, i apologize in advance)

1:56 pm

Aussieme

Oh I do hear ya Hurshy, really I do. The atrocities committed againt the Native Americans was and still is awful. To me its a team.

1:57 pm

hurshy

but to them, it's offensive.

1:57 pm

MollyL

Ah, The Discussion

1:58 pm

hurshy

imagine a German soccer team called the kikes, with a picture of a big hook-nosed Jew on it

1:58 pm

Aussieme

I get it, I really do. I've only ever known them as the Washington Redskins..... I'll get used to their new name eventually I guess.

1:58 pm

hurshy

well they haven't PICKED a new name yet, right?

1:59 pm

Aussieme

I thought they were Washington Football? No?

1:59 pm

hurshy

so we'll have to wait to get used to it until we have it, lol

2:00 pm

hurshy

i think that's just a temporary placeholder until they can decide on a new name

2:00 pm

Aussieme

Lol, maybe then hursh. I know they played under that name the other day, I thought that was what they'd chosen

2:00 pm

hurshy

maybe the Lobbyists...

2:01 pm

MollyL

And then we will wonder which group will be offended by that name. The lovers of red tail hawks, if it is The Red Hawks? People in combat if it is The Warriors? People who still are not satisfied if they just become The Washington Skins?

2:02 pm

hurshy

molly, i think that's a bit of a strawman, to assume that any possible name is bound to offend someone. i've never heard of Oriole lovers protesting the Orioles. i think it is perfectly possible to think of non offensive team names.

2:04 pm

MollyL

People seem to take offense to just about anything these days. Back when football teams got their names, it was as a sign of honor to the logo chosen. Tough, brave, fighting kind of honor. The name was never meant as a slur.

2:05 pm

hurshy

you can think you're honoring someone and do it badly, though. if they want to honor native americans, then they should take my suggestion of allowing a local tribe to choose the new team name.

2:06 pm

MollyL

*Sigh* Yes, I'm sure we should all take your suggestions.

2:08 pm

hurshy

there's a scene from a movie or TV show that's at the edge of my brain, can't quite place it, where someone throws a party for someone, or something, and emphasizes what they see as the salient aspects of their friend, and the friend turns out to be really hurt, like, "that's how you see me?" - if you make a mistake like that, and you care about people, then you apologize and you try to do better

2:08 pm

MollyL

Cleveland and Atlanta are both facing the same thing. Apparently Braves and Indians are slurs too.

2:08 pm

treerad

Molly, I work at a university that was previously the Redskins and is now the Redhawks. I haven't seen that issue pop up yet. (I wasn't here when the initial change happened, so maybe that conversation happened in the past) The local high school just went through a similar name change in the last two years, and same thing (different words, but same conversation)

2:08 pm

Aussieme

Up until 1933, they were the Boston Braves. In '33 they changed to Boston Redskins, then in '37 they moved to DC and became Washington Redskins.

2:09 pm

hurshy

the "but there aren't that many of them and can't they just not be so sensitive so that i don't have to be inconvenienced by dealing with issues that don't seem like a big deal to me" just strikes me as pretty lame.

2:10 pm

hurshy

yeah, not suprising for the 30s. nobody really tried to move away from all this crap until the 60s

2:12 pm

treerad

I don't think it's about the word in all of those cases, I think it's about making a mascot of people, particularly people who experienced genocide at the hands of members of the group that is doing the naming

2:12 pm

Aussieme

Who knows what they will finally decide on, even they don't know yet.

2:12 pm

hurshy

yes, i was just typing that very point treerad, and now i don't have to, lol

2:13 pm

mkg

hi all. need clue and stats for the 8s and the 9 please. ty.

2:13 pm

hurshy

ooh goody i will polish off my pun clue again

2:13 pm

hurshy

my BROther is gay, but i have a he9

2:14 pm

Aussieme

clever clue hursh!

2:14 pm

mkg

huh?

2:14 pm

mkg

is it two words or one? and does it use hig point letter? th.

2:14 pm

hurshy

mkg do you have he6 that means "different"

2:15 pm

Aussieme

one word mkg

2:15 pm

hurshy

no it does not use the z

2:15 pm

hurshy

si8 can you really be more free of noise than the absence of all noise? enable thinks you can, apparently.

2:15 pm

hurshy

so8 what hermits live in

2:16 pm

mkg

i got it. ty.

2:16 pm

mkg

ty. got the so and the he words. ty

2:16 pm

hurshy

he7/8 and er7/8 combos do use the z tho. to make someone into a savior figure, and to make sexy, respectively.

2:16 pm

mkg

any other clues for 8s welcome as well. ty.

2:17 pm

hurshy

i just did them all :D

2:17 pm

mkg

all the 8s? there are 4. must scroll back. ty

2:18 pm

hurshy

no there are all right there... si, so, then he and er at 2:16

2:18 pm

mkg

got the er. ty

2:19 pm

mkg

not getting he. hmmm

2:20 pm

mkg

ok got it now. ty

2:20 pm

mkg

any clues for bottom corner T word?

2:22 pm

hurshy

it is a te6/18

2:22 pm

hurshy

fairly frequent babblet

2:22 pm

mkg

ty. any clues?

2:22 pm

hurshy

i mean... i can give you the def from the dictionary but i doubt it'll help

2:23 pm

mkg

ok. not seeing it. but will keep trying

2:23 pm

hurshy

1 slender and smooth, with a circular transverse section.
2 cylindrical or slightly tapering.

2:31 pm

origami

hurshy, love your clue for the he9

2:31 pm

mkg

got it. ty

2:32 pm

hurshy

did you already have the word and love it, or did it actually work for you to get it love it?

2:32 pm

origami

It worked for me to get it.

2:34 pm

hurshy

mk good, i was afraid it was only loved by people who already had it :D

2:37 pm

Aussieme

nice clue for the TE6 hursh

2:38 pm

hurshy

how is that a nice clue lol

2:38 pm

Aussieme

because it helped me get the answer lol

2:40 pm

hurshy

ok, but i'll probably never see copying and pasting a definition as "a nice clue"

2:43 pm

Aussieme

Ok, well thank you anyways.

2:43 pm

hurshy

you're welcome :)

2:51 pm

JaxH66

Could I have the stats for the bottom right corner a please?

2:52 pm

zoozzoom

Ai 5/10 U 6/18

2:52 pm

hurshy

ai5/10 and pl, another ai5/10 and pt

2:52 pm

Aussieme

ai5/10, ai6/18, ai5/10, ai6/21

2:53 pm

hurshy

oh my we all hit send at once

2:53 pm

zoozzoom

Ai 5h10 & 6/21

2:53 pm

JaxH66

Thanks. Found 2 as soon as I asked

2:55 pm

JaxH66

Thanks got them all now

3:11 pm

Aussieme

D's Demolished (thank goodness)

3:11 pm

periwinkle

I need 7more d words

3:11 pm

periwinkle

hi all

3:12 pm

periwinkle

found 2 more d word

3:12 pm

periwinkle

words even

3:23 pm

NANCY

can someone clue me the re 6 and 7 before the give in re

3:23 pm

Aussieme

E's Eradicated

3:25 pm

NANCY

third 6 21 and the 7 after it please?

3:26 pm

Aussieme

Not got there yet Nancy

3:28 pm

justafreep

that re is to put a part on your shoe again

3:30 pm

Aussieme

thanks justafreep

3:30 pm

justafreep

yw

3:30 pm

NANCY

bless you just i got it.

3:56 pm

moolingwa

hey all, back to try and knock off some of these last 24

4:22 pm

origami

Can someone share a clue for the di 6/21, please?

4:33 pm

montreal13

ends in not bro

4:33 pm

montreal13

FW !

4:34 pm

montreal13

gotta go - hi and bye all - poof

4:36 pm

origami

Thanks, montreal

5:22 pm

moolingwa

6 to go...this is tough

5:29 pm

periwinkle

24 left here

5:30 pm

moolingwa

well, now down to 5

5:30 pm

moolingwa

still have one 4, two 6s and two 7s

5:31 pm

moolingwa

three of them are off the s in the fifth column

5:34 pm

periwinkle

11 T words left

5:36 pm

periwinkle

and done

5:37 pm

periwinkle

do you need help mool?

5:39 pm

moolingwa

Well missing an e in the second column

5:40 pm

moolingwa

it's the top e of the three

5:40 pm

moolingwa

and it's not a 5 or 8 :)

5:41 pm

periwinkle

do you have ed7 pl of ed6

5:41 pm

moolingwa

yep

5:42 pm

periwinkle

needle case? et4

5:42 pm

periwinkle

et6 french word for star

5:42 pm

moolingwa

oh duh, that was it...the et4

5:43 pm

moolingwa

now missing just 6s and 7s

5:43 pm

moolingwa

is there a 6/7 combo off the last column s?

5:44 pm

periwinkle

yes

5:44 pm

periwinkle

and one is singular and the other plural and I do not now how to clue them

5:45 pm

moolingwa

what's the second letter if you don't mind?

5:45 pm

periwinkle

you mean the 3rd letter it is i

5:46 pm

periwinkle

they are twisty words

5:46 pm

periwinkle

up and down and up and down in the grid

5:47 pm

periwinkle

do you want me to just type it?

5:47 pm

periwinkle

are they your last words

5:47 pm

moolingwa

no, 4 left

5:47 pm

moolingwa

have 3 off that s

5:47 pm

moolingwa

and one off the T in the middle

5:47 pm

moolingwa

and the T is either a 6/7

5:48 pm

moolingwa

and the remaining s is either a 6 or 7

5:49 pm

periwinkle

I need to go.

5:49 pm

moolingwa

no worries

5:49 pm

moolingwa

all good

5:49 pm

periwinkle

maybe someone else will help you.

5:49 pm

moolingwa

thx

6:04 pm

hokie carla

Just got here so I still have 225 words to go

6:34 pm

lynxxx

Morning. Have you got the so7.28 Mool? starts with the foot p[art?

6:34 pm

penquis

two Ts, two Es, one R....

6:34 pm

penquis

sorry, was responding to what was apparently an older post, lol....

6:35 pm

lynxxx

nice lobster graphic Pen

6:36 pm

penquis

ty....felt i needed a change....

6:41 pm

penquis

can someone please clue the last de 6/21?

6:42 pm

hokie carla

The one I have is stopping someone from doing something

6:43 pm

penquis

sorry....have that one.....should have said the one before last....

6:43 pm

penquis

but ty....

6:43 pm

HarryHood

student who is bad gets this (+ion)?

6:43 pm

hokie carla

just found one before that that was ends in camping “house”

6:44 pm

penquis

ty, harry....that was the one....

6:44 pm

penquis

ty, harry....that was the one....

6:44 pm

penquis

there is an echo in this room.... :o|

6:45 pm

HarryHood

75 to go

6:45 pm

penquis

54 here....

6:46 pm

hokie carla

96 here

6:46 pm

HarryHood

phantom erudite

6:47 pm

penquis

yes, saw that this morning....also deltoid.....

6:47 pm

hokie carla

I always try delt

6:48 pm

lynxxx

hu7.40 who would have guessed this def!

6:49 pm

hokie carla

Would you care to clue?

6:49 pm

wht

Just found the he9. Would that be your straight sibling?

6:49 pm

hokie carla

Thx

6:49 pm

HarryHood

ty wht

6:49 pm

HarryHood

nbs :)

6:50 pm

lynxxx

hu7 I thought the def would be the plural of hu*** gurdys

6:50 pm

hokie carla

I haven’t found an 8 but haven’t really looked

6:50 pm

wht

ty lynx

6:50 pm

HarryHood

I have one 8

6:50 pm

hokie carla

LOL, of course it’s Scot

6:52 pm

wht

I have an er8 and an he8. Both use the high point tile.

6:52 pm

HarryHood

got the er! ty

6:53 pm

lynxxx

there's a quieter s8 too

6:53 pm

hokie carla

Yes, gracias

6:53 pm

HarryHood

I had that one.

6:53 pm

penquis

there is an si 8 that i refuse to think is grammatically correct.....

6:54 pm

hokie carla

Oh, thx lyn. I didn

6:54 pm

penquis

and an so 8....

6:54 pm

hokie carla

Didn’t even have the 6, but I thought I saw it earlier

6:54 pm

hokie carla

Wonder why you can’t replace the z with the s in the er7

6:55 pm

HarryHood

60!

6:55 pm

penquis

i wondered that, too....

6:55 pm

hokie carla

Is the he8 frm the top h because I can only find 1 of those

6:55 pm

HarryHood

I'm listing. got stuff to do.

6:56 pm

penquis

i listed early....

6:56 pm

hokie carla

Still 82 here

6:56 pm

lynxxx

a lovely so8 although being in lockdown maybe not so much

6:56 pm

penquis

carla....from the bottom H....

6:57 pm

hokie carla

I have hi4 from top and that’s it

6:57 pm

penquis

think Hitler....

6:58 pm

hokie carla

Thanks, was thinking that never works, but maybe I’m thinking of reich

6:59 pm

penquis

probably....

7:00 pm

hokie carla

Ah, got the so8, thx, lyn

7:12 pm

lynxxx

anything else b4 I go ?

7:12 pm

penquis

are the first two OU words words I should know?

7:13 pm

HarryHood

one maybe one yes

7:13 pm

penquis

ty harry....

7:13 pm

hokie carla

I still don’t have that he8 with high point tile but have tried everything

7:13 pm

hokie carla

I still don’t have that he8 with high point tile but have tried everything

7:14 pm

penquis

start with prefix for someone who is not gay....

7:14 pm

HarryHood

extend the he4

7:14 pm

lynxxx

the first ou doesn't have a T but is here quite often

7:14 pm

HarryHood

wrong one pen

7:14 pm

Lizlin

he 8 - starts with a champion

7:14 pm

Lizlin

Good morning all

7:14 pm

penquis

sorry.....i was talking about the he 9....

7:14 pm

wht

Hokie, Superman or Batman could find it.

7:15 pm

Lizlin

Both strange words in my opinion.

7:15 pm

lynxxx

he9 doesn't use the z - ends with abbrev of your female sibling

7:15 pm

lynxxx

morning Liz

7:15 pm

hokie carla

Thx, all. Was trying all kinds of things starting with that, but forgot to try that as a plural.

7:15 pm

wht

The 9 does not use the high point tile. It is your straight sibling.

7:16 pm

penquis

the he 7/8 do...

7:16 pm

Lizlin

Morning Lyn - how are you coping in lockdown?

7:17 pm

lynxxx

truthfully not well - really another 6 weeks b4 it gets better for me - quite getting me down.

7:18 pm

HarryHood

done!

7:18 pm

Lizlin

Very sorry to hear that. I can only imagine how tough it is - so glad that I live up here.

7:18 pm

Lizlin

Congrats Harry - and if I don't see you, Shana Tova

7:18 pm

HarryHood

ty liz :)

7:18 pm

penquis

congrats, harry....

7:19 pm

lynxxx

I am quite jealous - not into travelling however a trip to Queensland would be lovely. My SIL is near Noosa and has room - if only!!

7:19 pm

HarryHood

ty :)

7:19 pm

lynxxx

congrats Harry

7:19 pm

Lizlin

My stepson has a big birthday coming up in October - really sad we can't get down to Melbourne for it.

7:20 pm

lynxxx

Maybe they will defer the celebration?

7:20 pm

HarryHood

hagn all

7:20 pm

hokie carla

Good job Harry, down to 60 here.

7:21 pm

lynxxx

bye Harry

7:21 pm

hokie carla

Sorry, lyn :(

7:21 pm

Lizlin

They're hoping to do that - bit like my nephew's wedding in the UK has been deferred (like many others) but I doubt we'll be able to get to the UK next year for that either.

7:21 pm

Lizlin

It's a tough time for many people, all over.

7:22 pm

lynxxx

The UK seems to be getting out of control again

7:22 pm

Lizlin

Certainly does. Like much of Europe.

7:22 pm

lynxxx

Yay for tough Gladys

7:23 pm

JenMO16

Hi everyone!

7:23 pm

Lizlin

Sadly I think tough measures are very necessary.

7:23 pm

Lizlin

Hi Jen

7:23 pm

hokie carla

Hi Jen

7:23 pm

lynxxx

and actually for Dan too - at least he has pulled the numbers down relatively fast. Sad about all the people we have lost in the interim though

7:24 pm

Lizlin

re 6/7 pls? The last pair

7:24 pm

lynxxx

Hi Jen

7:24 pm

Lizlin

And Anastacia too

7:24 pm

lynxxx

re6/7 do this during a bathroom renovation (walls)

7:25 pm

hokie carla

I don’t haev any re6/7 pairs

7:25 pm

Lizlin

thanks :)

7:25 pm

hokie carla

Oh, I had the 6 but didn’t get the 7 :D

7:25 pm

Lizlin

re 6/7 - footwear repair

7:25 pm

lynxxx

a set you do to shoes when they wear down as well Hokie

7:26 pm

Lizlin

9 left - back later to finish. Time to make some bread.

7:26 pm

lynxxx

or whatLiz said

7:26 pm

lynxxx

Bye Liz - and bye everyone else

7:26 pm

hokie carla

I was very confused thinking there’s not a e next to the s. Hehe

7:27 pm

hokie carla

Wrong shoe part!

7:35 pm

penquis

i am done....

7:36 pm

hokie carla

Well done

7:36 pm

hokie carla

Down to 42. And seemingly stuck. Guess I will list.

7:37 pm

hokie carla

Ooh, 40

7:38 pm

penquis

ty...

7:40 pm

wht

Fireworks finally. Does anyone need any clues before I go?

7:40 pm

penquis

congrats...

7:40 pm

penquis

i am also heading out....goodnight all....

7:46 pm

wht

Good night and happy babbling to all.

9:11 pm

moolingwa

well, down to 2

9:36 pm

hokie carla

38, just went to list

9:36 pm

hokie carla

what's left, moo?

9:36 pm

moolingwa

If I can help, let me know

9:36 pm

moolingwa

An in the last column and a T in the middle column

9:36 pm

moolingwa

one is a 6 and one is a 7

9:37 pm

hokie carla

from bottom i? I am missing one there.

9:38 pm

moolingwa

probably the io6

9:38 pm

hokie carla

yeah, it was. were you saying an a in the last column? something is missing in your post :D

9:39 pm

moolingwa

S in the last column

9:39 pm

moolingwa

sorry on with Apple Support :)

9:39 pm

hokie carla

ah, makes more sense if I had all the a's

9:39 pm

hokie carla

I need 6 S's there and 7 T's from middle. will get busy on those!

9:40 pm

moolingwa

yeah, they're big tiles

9:41 pm

moolingwa

and it's not turdies...in case you were wondering

9:41 pm

hokie carla

I may already know that ;)

9:42 pm

hokie carla

do you have an so7?

9:42 pm

hokie carla

that is my last one

9:42 pm

moolingwa

nope, that'd be in

9:42 pm

hokie carla

not seeing it

9:42 pm

hokie carla

last s, not last word

9:43 pm

hokie carla

I know the 3rd letter too!

9:43 pm

moolingwa

got it, thx

9:43 pm

moolingwa

just need to find a t6 now

9:43 pm

hokie carla

should I know this so7?

9:44 pm

moolingwa

no, probably not

9:44 pm

moolingwa

no definition ;)

9:44 pm

hokie carla

how did you find it so easy?

9:45 pm

moolingwa

well it helps me a lot when I know for certain the second letter and the length

9:46 pm

hokie carla

yeah, usually helps me to know the 3rd letter and point total but maybe I'm just too tired

9:46 pm

moolingwa

but it apparently is a metal sole part for a suit of armor

9:46 pm

moolingwa

or rather the whole foot

9:47 pm

moolingwa

well sounds like a diminutive to a foot part that I may or may not have inadvertently shared

9:48 pm

hokie carla

I think my main problem is I was trying to get a 6 when I know it is a 7. RME

9:49 pm

moolingwa

yes, basic numerical skills can be of assistance in this game at times

9:49 pm

hokie carla

argh

9:49 pm

hokie carla

did you find your T?

9:49 pm

moolingwa

need more help on it?

9:50 pm

moolingwa

no, I am currently trying out combos

9:50 pm

hokie carla

nah, I just looked it up, but thanks.

9:50 pm

moolingwa

next time you see a suit of armor you'll be able to impress your friends

9:51 pm

hokie carla

so true

9:51 pm

moolingwa

you can also point out the greaves, and the gorget...that's sure to impress

9:51 pm

hokie carla

you aren't missing a commode are you? because I just struggled somewhat with that. RME again.

9:52 pm

moolingwa

no, I crapped all over that one

9:52 pm

moolingwa

and have tried it at least 7 more times just in case

9:52 pm

moolingwa

along with the worker

9:52 pm

moolingwa

and the work

9:52 pm

moolingwa

and the camper

9:53 pm

moolingwa

and the tipping over, and pubescent one

9:53 pm

hokie carla

well, I will let you know, I just have 2 t's left

9:53 pm

moolingwa

terrific

9:53 pm

hokie carla

te6, do you want the points

9:54 pm

moolingwa

not yet

9:55 pm

moolingwa

okay, will take the points...really very done with this grid

9:55 pm

hokie carla

ok, that's not really helping me find it. and I also know the 3rd letter here.

9:56 pm

moolingwa

nm, got it

9:56 pm

moolingwa

strange word

9:56 pm

hokie carla

finally got it

9:57 pm

moolingwa

when you said you knew the third letter I suspected what it was

9:57 pm

hokie carla

after reading the def., I know we've had it before. why didn't I remember it?

9:57 pm

moolingwa

I'd tried a bunch of words that begin with that 4 earlier

9:57 pm

moolingwa

need help with any others?

9:57 pm

hokie carla

glad I could help LOL

9:57 pm

moolingwa

or you done now?

9:58 pm

hokie carla

uh, was working on my last D earlier di 6/21

9:58 pm

moolingwa

oh yeah, that's an odd one

9:58 pm

moolingwa

maybe if you didn't like your sibling you'd say this in a fit of anger

9:58 pm

moolingwa

though it means something else :)

9:59 pm

hokie carla

thanks, I'm sure I've stumbled over that one before.

9:59 pm

moolingwa

it apparently means double dagger in printing

9:59 pm

hokie carla

sure I will find the rest with the list, thx!

9:59 pm

moolingwa

okay, I'm off...have a great night!

10:00 pm

hokie carla

same to you!

11:07 pm

harpjane

stats for the lone i, (eye) please?

11:07 pm

bookwomen

id 5 stupid

11:08 pm

bookwomen

I was not calling you stupid by the way lol

11:08 pm

harpjane

sigh, you might as well.... thanks

11:10 pm

bookwomen

if you got the clue that is evidence you are not

11:16 pm

harpjane

stats for the lone U?

11:16 pm

harpjane

oops never mind

11:17 pm

bookwomen

ut 5 u+ bathroom floor

11:17 pm

harpjane

what about the lone T?

11:19 pm

bookwomen

I think it might be te 6/18

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