Babble: Archived Puzzle for Sunday, November 7, 2021

12:03 am

jessmom

wo7

12:04 am

rbud

hi all! fo7

12:04 am

cybernan

fl 7 - hi everyone

12:05 am

Rainiqui

nbt, nbs

12:09 am

hokie carla

last column gray 😜

12:10 am

cybernan

yep

12:10 am

rbud

haha, go carla go!

12:12 am

cybernan

not seeing the u

12:13 am

penquis

It’s a four…

12:13 am

cybernan

nm - got one of thelm

12:13 am

cybernan

lol - time for bed - there is only one

12:14 am

hokie carla

I was like, am I missing something? lol

12:18 am

rbud

any hints for the center bottom - well, the only working - N?

12:18 am

hokie carla

hospital

12:18 am

Lizlin

nu5/12

12:18 am

penquis

Think medical…

12:18 am

cybernan

hospital worker

12:18 am

licketySplitAUS

Clues are up

12:18 am

rbud

it's not Radar's favorite grape drink, I figured that out. :)

12:19 am

hokie carla

HOET!

12:19 am

rbud

Ah, I was close, they have those in MASH units. I was just not looking in the right circles. Thanks!

12:20 am

Book Doctor Gwen

hi all, sorry i'm late

12:22 am

hokie carla

well, the server had a little temper tantrum right at the flip, gwen

12:22 am

rbud

we shall dock thy pay... ;)

12:23 am

Book Doctor Gwen

shoot, missed all the excitement

12:23 am

hokie carla

it was only a minute or two

12:27 am

cybernan

need one more s to finish the bottom row

12:27 am

penquis

I need an E there… ;o)

12:27 am

hokie carla

sh5

12:28 am

hokie carla

en6

12:28 am

hokie carla

I forgot to announce bottom row gray!

12:28 am

cybernan

have one of those

12:28 am

penquis

I have an en 6….

12:28 am

hokie carla

there are 2...

12:28 am

penquis

There are more sh 5 words…

12:29 am

cybernan

it was a plural

12:29 am

cybernan

also an sh 5

12:29 am

hokie carla

but it could be el6

12:29 am

hokie carla

I was talking about a pl sh5 where the 4 comes from upper s

12:29 am

penquis

It was a four…

12:29 am

penquis

But ty….

12:30 am

hokie carla

ah, the old babblet

12:30 am

penquis

Yup

12:30 am

hokie carla

wow, just checked the def. of that

12:30 am

cybernan

ntpn - trumpet player (taste of honey)

12:31 am

hokie carla

did you say fi or FL 7 earlier nan?

12:31 am

penquis

Hirt

12:31 am

cybernan

gold star for pen

12:31 am

penquis

Ty…

12:32 am

cybernan

yes carla

12:32 am

penquis

FL….

12:32 am

hokie carla

yes to which? i or L?

12:32 am

hokie carla

thanks, pen

12:33 am

hokie carla

not finding that but will assume it's normal since nan found it so fast

12:33 am

Gillie

If it's the same one I have, it's not all that normal

12:33 am

penquis

It’s a word that we have seen here before…

12:33 am

hokie carla

oh, okay.

12:35 am

rastapopolous

fo7

12:35 am

hokie carla

so there's 2 fo7?

12:36 am

rastapopolous

Was it already called? I missed the beginning of the flip

12:36 am

hokie carla

there was one called but the 4th 7 hasn't been as far as I know

12:37 am

rastapopolous

was wo7 also called?

12:37 am

penquis

Yes

12:37 am

hokie carla

fo7, wo7, fl7

12:37 am

rastapopolous

ok, on to #4 then

12:38 am

Kateq

si 7

12:39 am

penquis

Ty, Kate…

12:40 am

hokie carla

got that one somehow, thx

12:41 am

Gillie

ty Kate

12:42 am

cybernan

monkeys are awake :) ty kate

12:47 am

penquis

Well i am going to leave my last 10 for tomorrow….or i should say later today…..goodnight all….

12:48 am

hokie carla

19 left here but basically stuck, so probably should try to sleep too.

12:48 am

cybernan

leaving 15 for tomorrow -- good night everyone.
Don't forget to turn your clocks back :)

6:05 am

HarryHood

first pass - 36 to go! lots of driving to do today. probably that's it for me. have fun!

6:31 am

dan2bit

morning all! right column done ;-)

6:33 am

Uneaixoise

Morning, Dan et al :-)

6:37 am

dan2bit

left column done - a little trickier

6:46 am

BzznBea

I have 19 left after first pass. May be time for some breakfast...

6:47 am

aslindy

hello all

6:48 am

Uneaixoise

Hey!

6:52 am

dan2bit

center column and SW<->NE diagonal done

6:54 am

Uneaixoise

9 to go and time to take the pups out to pee..... later, all!

7:08 am

periwinkle

good morning all. help with si7 plese

7:11 am

aslindy

woofle - what you have when the dog makes breakfast

7:12 am

aslindy

no idea on that, peri

7:17 am

dromano66

greek god I think si

7:19 am

dromano66

ends in not we but all of **...sorry terrible clue

7:19 am

dromano66

trifle

7:20 am

dromano66

sorry

7:23 am

bichon

wh 5/20, first one, pls

7:25 am

BzznBea

You asked for that word wh5,10 I was fixing breakfast.

7:25 am

dromano66

has a letter from each column and ends with the bottom

7:26 am

aslindy

you mean row, not column

7:26 am

bichon

ty droman

7:26 am

dromano66

right...ends with the e on the right

7:29 am

dromano66

lol...lets agree I am a terrible clue giver

7:38 am

aslindy

clue for ri5,12 please?

7:40 am

BzznBea

Ends with a short greeting not bye

7:40 am

aslindy

thank you

7:41 am

BzznBea

yw

7:43 am

MollyL

I was so wrong about that word. I thought it was Japanese food. Not food, not Japanese,
: D

7:50 am

dan2bit

I have fl7 fo7 si7 what's my missing 7?

7:51 am

welki

wo

7:52 am

dan2bit

oh duh forgot to plural the adjective ty welki

7:52 am

dan2bit

5 left, all in column 2

7:53 am

Scrabbler

I greyed out the 5th column.

7:53 am

dan2bit

huzzah!

7:53 am

welki

well done, scrabbler *polite applause*

7:53 am

Scrabbler

*doing a curtsy*

7:54 am

welki

hehe - in your mary janes and frilly white ankle socks

7:55 am

hurshy

morning all! top row grey!

7:56 am

Scrabbler

Hi Hurshy

7:56 am

Scrabbler

That's me, welki, a girly-girl...not

7:57 am

hurshy

how are you scrabbler? :)

7:58 am

welki

it was the curtsy thing :)

7:58 am

Scrabbler

Healthy and blessed. Tired of the anti-science folks in this pandemic.

7:59 am

hurshy

*hugs*

8:00 am

bichon

Hi Scrabs, hurshy.

8:00 am

Scrabbler

Hi Bichon and pup and Mr Bichon.

8:00 am

Scrabbler

Hurshy, I met my friend's new kitten, an 8-week old 3-legged sweetheart named Willie.

8:01 am

welki

i know so many people who are travelling overseas (and to the states and mexico) as if the pandemic is over - I see their photographs and wonder if I'm ridiculous in still being super-cautious

8:01 am

hurshy

awwww

8:01 am

hurshy

short hair, medium, or long? fur color?

8:01 am

welki

(we won't be eligible for third dose/booster until, at least, december)

8:02 am

Scrabbler

Europe is getting crushed with COVID now and the US typically follows 3-4 wks later. Also, Thanksgiving and Christmas will cause problems.

8:02 am

welki

i miss having cats

8:03 am

hurshy

i saw a headline yesterday about someone saying the pandemic could be over in the US by January. i didn't click but i am assuming it was one of those "...if everybody did what they should do" things... which of course they won't...

8:03 am

Scrabbler

Medium length, white with brown splotches. So damn cute. Maybe 2 lbs. My friend volunteers at the SPCA in the cat wing and latched on to him post-op.

8:03 am

welki

volunteering at the shelter is risky :D

8:03 am

hurshy

i'm so glad!

8:05 am

Scrabbler

Yes, welki!

8:06 am

hurshy

phantoms: sift, shift, shrift

8:07 am

bichon

I've had all the vaccines, including the booster. Hope I'll be safe

8:09 am

Scrabbler

Wear a filtration mask when indoors. Filtration masks = N95, KN95, or KF94. Don't eat indoors at restaurants.

8:10 am

Scrabbler

CoV is airborne, not a droplet, and can float around for up to 16 hrs.

8:11 am

mael

I'm so excited to get my kids vaccinated this wednesday

8:11 am

Scrabbler

Yay! Good for you, mael!

8:22 am

hokie carla

hey y'all.

8:23 am

Scrabbler

Hi Carla. How are you doing today?

8:24 am

hokie carla

pretty good, stayed up too late last night playing this and watching tv. set the coffee maker to have it ready this morning but forgot to put the carafe under. 🤣

8:24 am

Scrabbler

Uh, oh.

8:25 am

hurshy

oh dear

8:26 am

hurshy

they should have a sensor that makes it not go if the carafe isn't there, like how garage doors stop closing if there is somebody underneath them

8:26 am

welki

ugh. nasty way to start the day

8:26 am

welki

(ours will not pour through the filter without the pot)

8:27 am

hokie carla

wasn't as bad as it could be because it has the feature where it stops when you remove the pot, but the filter area was overflowing

8:27 am

hurshy

aha so they do have such features

8:27 am

welki

^5

8:27 am

hurshy

i can only see 6s in the Spelling Bee today, having trouble getting a pangram

8:27 am

rururocks

<---mine won't pour either but it will over fill the filter area if the lid isn't on the carafe.. I do that all the time when I'm not awake.

8:29 am

hokie carla

hurshy, I saw 2 6s right away and now can't see anything close to a pangram

8:29 am

hurshy

yeah, bet we saw the same ones :)

8:30 am

hokie carla

just knocked over my water with my laptop. not even Monday.

8:30 am

hurshy

:(

8:30 am

welki

fill it with the carafe so you'll remember

8:31 am

hurshy

Lance Armstrong would have been the greatest in all cycledom if he hadn't cheated... totally seems like a word, right?

8:32 am

BzznBea

Here's is a wonderful tip I bet you all didn't know. When you are out of range for the signal of your key fob to reach your car to lock it, place the fob under your chin. YOur skull works as an antennae and boosts the signal of the fob.

8:32 am

BzznBea

Just random shit...

8:32 am

hokie carla

well and I wear a sunshirt at the beach

8:32 am

welki

i did that once and picked up a radio station from cleveland :D

8:32 am

hokie carla

that seems really weird, bea

8:33 am

hurshy

pb for bea! lol

8:33 am

rururocks

*wonders how often bea holds a key fob under her chin*

8:34 am

welki

our bike helmets use bone conduction for audio

8:34 am

godthaab

bzznbea - opening your mouth and having the waves bounce to your car works too!

8:34 am

BzznBea

Well, usually I'm standing at the back door with my car fob trying to unlock it.

8:35 am

hurshy

how many do you have? fewish

8:37 am

rururocks

there has to be a lot of weird ass s's in this grid

8:38 am

hurshy

nb: you can't spell domicile domycyle

8:39 am

hurshy

the Ss aren't as bad as you'd think. a bunch of babblets but we have them a lot. si7 the hardest S word i think

8:41 am

hokie carla

I just need one upper S

8:41 am

periwinkle

help with the si7 please hi all

8:41 am

periwinkle

I need one bottom S and one Bottom E to gray out bottom row

8:42 am

hokie carla

be quiet - a letter + not them

8:42 am

hurshy

start like total quiet and end like a Latin name

8:42 am

hurshy

my last upper S was conflict, hokie, if that helps

8:42 am

cherlyq

thanks

8:43 am

hurshy

bottom S has a couple of plurals where the singular comes from a different S

8:43 am

hokie carla

10 left here. have only found 1 this morning. gotta get ready for mountain biking. 3-2-4-1 T WW T S RR FFF (I know the 7 is FL but can't get it)

8:43 am

hokie carla

I have that S, but thanks, hurshy

8:43 am

hurshy

do you have the hebrew afterlife one?

8:43 am

periwinkle

ty fpr si7

8:44 am

hokie carla

maybe? would need stat to confirm

8:44 am

periwinkle

yes hursh

8:44 am

hurshy

sh5/12 after what you put books on, hokie

8:46 am

hokie carla

ok, I think that's it, just have to monkey it now

8:46 am

periwinkle

got the bottom s and it was not a pl

8:46 am

periwinkle

what is my missing bottom E

8:46 am

hokie carla

do you have the e4 babblet?

8:46 am

hurshy

el6, el4 ?

8:47 am

hokie carla

which I just learned last night is a portmanteau of 2 shortened school words

8:47 am

periwinkle

ty hurshy for the el4

8:47 am

hurshy

a portmanteau that i find particularly loathesome

8:47 am

hokie carla

me too

8:47 am

hurshy

no, loathsome, apparently

8:47 am

hokie carla

never heard that used ever in my life

8:48 am

hokie carla

where on earth did enable find it?

8:48 am

hurshy

i've seen it used i think

8:48 am

rururocks

in school

8:49 am

periwinkle

I did not know that meaning of portmanteau. It also means large trunk or suitcase

8:49 am

hurshy

my last 3 are being very elusive

8:49 am

hurshy

I THOUGHT OF THE PANGRAM

8:49 am

hokie carla

oh don't get me started on portmanteaus. I love a good one.

8:49 am

hurshy

and it's a super fun word

8:49 am

periwinkle

bottom row and right column gray.

8:50 am

periwinkle

it is a super fun word indeed

8:51 am

hurshy

phantom: ruin

8:51 am

Scrabbler

45 left and I need to shop in town. Enjoy the day.

8:52 am

periwinkle

30 left here. bbl. off to a free book fair

8:52 am

72 Temple Owl

no cbs sunday am?

9:00 am

mkg

Hi all. Any stats or clues for the u word? Ty

9:01 am

mkg

Even with the clues i dont get any N words for bottom row N. Darn.

9:02 am

jzw

u 4/5 you'll kick yourself when you get it

9:02 am

hurshy

us4

9:03 am

hurshy

what clues did you get? medical caregivers

9:03 am

hurshy

for the Ns

9:04 am

mkg

Ty looking. Us. 4 5…….

9:04 am

mkg

Kicking myself good! Ty

9:05 am

mkg

Got about 5 others from that one. Wow. Ty so much

9:05 am

mkg

And got the N words for medical caregivers. Ty so much.

9:06 am

mkg

Still in need of a seven if any stats or clues are out there. Ty.

9:06 am

mkg

Then i am off for the day.

9:06 am

hurshy

it's better to be wise than fo7

9:07 am

mkg

Wonderful hurshy. Got it so fast. Forgot about that ending! Ty so much. Any other clues welcome too. Ty.

9:28 am

cybernan

good morning everyone - 12 to go

10:00 am

cybernan

stuck on last 4: col. 1 - 4 T R H F help please

10:07 am

cybernan

an;yone here?

10:43 am

MollyL

Sorry Nan, I don't understand the new "code" you all are using

11:26 am

hurshy

i think she meant that the tiles she was missing words from are found one each in columns 1 through 4, those being T in the first column, R in the second, H in the third, and F in the fourth

11:26 am

hurshy

course, there are two Hs in the third column, but

11:29 am

hurshy

guesses: tr6/21 perhaps for the T; rh6 was my R, thought the 4 was plural but apparently you can plural the 4 to make a 6; hu5 that sounds like the kidnapped Patty H, and fl6/27 that rhymes with (and includes) the lo5/10

11:29 am

hurshy

dunno if that's too late or not but hey whatever :D

11:31 am

penquis

Well the fl was one of my last missing four, so thanks, hursh….now only three left…

11:32 am

penquis

And so was the rh….never would have thought of that…

11:38 am

penquis

Want to guess what my missing five letter S word is?…

11:49 am

periwinkle

sh5/12

11:50 am

penquis

Is that a pl?

11:51 am

periwinkle

no. do you want a clue. it was my last s word

11:51 am

penquis

I have three sh 5/12 words….is there another?

11:51 am

periwinkle

one more

11:52 am

periwinkle

do you have the one that start with not he

11:52 am

periwinkle

30 left here

11:52 am

penquis

Ah, that is it then….i have the apparel ….

11:54 am

periwinkle

Hebrew word for home of the dead

11:54 am

penquis

No idea…

11:55 am

periwinkle

female and beginning of Twist's first name

11:55 am

penquis

Got it…ty…..i am. Done….

11:56 am

periwinkle

yw and congrats

11:56 am

periwinkle

bbl

11:56 am

penquis

Ty…

11:56 am

penquis

We have had that word before….just didn’t think of it…

12:00 pm

penquis

Need anything before i go, peri?

12:04 pm

penquis

Well i am heading out then….bye all….

12:13 pm

bichon

th 6/21, pls

12:16 pm

penquis

There are three….

12:17 pm

bichon

second, pls

12:17 pm

penquis

Not ours, believer in god, and need to drink…

12:18 pm

penquis

That would be the god one…

12:18 pm

penquis

It’s twisty…

12:18 pm

bichon

ty pen

12:19 pm

penquis

Yw….

12:27 pm

Sophie512

hello all, thanks pen

1:48 pm

Uneaixoise

Fw!!

1:48 pm

Sophie512

aarg

1:48 pm

Sophie512

I mean, congratulations!

2:13 pm

hokie carla

rehi - still 8 here. found one of my missing thanks to bichon and pen

2:24 pm

Sophie512

hi carla, 11 here, time out for lunch

2:29 pm

hokie carla

found 1 more and decided to use the list for the rest.

2:30 pm

hokie carla

of course now I can't find one with the list

2:32 pm

Sophie512

lickety

2:32 pm

Sophie512

I have 4 left

2:56 pm

periwinkle

hi all, back to finish 26 left

3:02 pm

Sophie512

2, please don't tell me if you finish before me, peri

3:14 pm

Sophie512

1

3:22 pm

Sophie512

time out

3:27 pm

Trifioso

wahoo! I am in the grid today!

3:32 pm

Sophie512

yes, you are

3:34 pm

Trifioso

I won't let it go to my head

3:36 pm

Sophie512

Fireworks! Now to look up the definition of that last word that gave me fits.

3:37 pm

Sophie512

Tri, need a clue before I leave?

3:37 pm

Trifioso

no, I am happily clueless

3:37 pm

Sophie512

bahahaha

3:37 pm

Trifioso

thank you for asking! Sophie is one of my favorite names - have one myself!

4:08 pm

cybernan

hi again - anyone here?

4:08 pm

allyall

7 left!

4:09 pm

cybernan

I need 2 - an r and an f (one 4 and one 5) - any guesses?

4:10 pm

allyall

fl6?

4:11 pm

allyall

no fe5?

4:11 pm

cybernan

have that

4:12 pm

allyall

plural?

4:12 pm

cybernan

plural what?

4:13 pm

allyall

fu5 ?

4:14 pm

cybernan

have that one too -- I haven't listed so I don't know which is a 4 or the 5

4:14 pm

allyall

wow :) do you have the weapon ?

4:16 pm

cybernan

have a weapon that begins with ri

4:17 pm

allyall

hmm I am not sure what your missing words are. :) I have one 6 remaining,

4:18 pm

cybernan

found the r - it was a 2nd ri 5, new one for me. Looking for an r 4 now

4:18 pm

cybernan

no - looking for an f 4

4:18 pm

allyall

oh i'm missing that 2nd ri5 too

4:19 pm

allyall

my guess for the f is the hebrew letter

4:20 pm

cybernan

*!*~*!* it was the pastry :) Thanks for looking with me

4:21 pm

allyall

ah! :D i just had some baklava a few weeks ago. its delicious

4:21 pm

allyall

i have 5 left, all 4's and 5s

4:21 pm

cybernan

what letters are you missing?

4:22 pm

allyall

r and h

4:24 pm

allyall

trying to monkey them

4:25 pm

cybernan

r 5 x3 and h 5 x4

4:28 pm

allyall

one left, ri5/12

4:29 pm

allyall

found it!

4:30 pm

cybernan

grats :)

4:30 pm

cybernan

hagd everyone :)

4:30 pm

allyall

ty. :) way to go not listing. :)

4:30 pm

allyall

that last one was a new word for me

11:03 pm

dofith

oh no! Another hour to go! Some where must have just started or finished daylight saving. How very inconvenient of them!

11:05 pm

grannyrose

lol.... dofith. yes the USA has finished daylight saving time. flip is at 5pm. xx

11:06 pm

grannyrose

and it all goes the other way next year when we finish daylight saving, and then a week later USA starts it again.

11:12 pm

dofith

For us in the west, not having ds at all, we're just at the mercy of the rest of the world! 1pm for me is a much better time than 2pm - getting very fussy the older i get!

11:13 pm

dofith

I guess life can't be too bad if I get my knickers in a twist over such trivialities.

11:16 pm

Jacula

Here in UK, we put the clocks back last weekend, it;s 5.16am and there are 44 more mins to go before the flip.

11:18 pm

Jacula

Actually, thinking about it, I think we put them back the weekend before last. lol

11:18 pm

licketySplitAUS

Clues are up

11:18 pm

grannyrose

* gently helps dofith to untwist her knickers* there, there dear it'll be okay in a few days.

11:19 pm

Jacula

That's nice of you grannyrose, twisted knickers must be painful. :)

11:20 pm

Jacula

Thanks Lickety - you must have the new grid before we do.

11:21 pm

grannyrose

i emailed lickety two days ago about the new flip time for today, and i really should have prompted him this morning. have sent another email. fingers crossed he gets it today, and reposts the list AFTER he flip. loll

11:22 pm

grannyrose

he is a very busy man. i'm not surprised he has forgotten.

11:23 pm

grannyrose

yes, Jac. we change our time, then UK changes their time the next week, then the USA changes their time the week after that.

11:24 pm

Jacula

Confusing, grannyrose!

11:24 pm

licketySplitAUS

timing is fixed - it'll happen again in an hour now

11:24 pm

Jacula

Thanks Lickety.

11:24 pm

grannyrose

and then poor dofith lives in a different time zone to me.

11:24 pm

licketySplitAUS

And thanks for everyone reminding me! I need that sometimes. Comes with age :)

11:25 pm

grannyrose

lickety you are a wonderful man. thanx ever so much.

11:25 pm

Jacula

Comes to us all in the end, Lickety! Now what did I come in here for? ;)

11:26 pm

grannyrose

you were going to tell me how wonderful i am at wordblitz. loll

11:26 pm

Jacula

I'm going to go back to where I first thought of it and see if it jogs my memory. ROFLOL

11:26 pm

licketySplitAUS

I've impressed myself that I've kept my computer on for 15 years for you all :)

11:27 pm

grannyrose

lickety as i said you are a wonderful man. we would be bereft if you didn't help us.

11:28 pm

licketySplitAUS

There are others out there who would fill the gap if I suddenly disappeared. You are are wonderful and it's no effort for me :)

11:29 pm

Jacula

Lickety - ditto what grannyrose said.x

11:32 pm

grannyrose

maybe lickety, but i couldn't raise them if i needed to you. if your planning a disappearing act, don't bother, 'cos i'm gonna come after you. loll

11:33 pm

Jacula

I know I said I thought your list was like cheating when it first arrived on the scene, but I have found it a real help for finding those last few words over the years. You've been doing sterling work and long may it continue.

11:34 pm

Jacula

I hope you know how appreciated you are!

11:36 pm

Jacula

Lickety - 'others out there who would fill the gap if I suddenly disappeared' - my son could do that, but I've never let him because we like YOU!

11:42 pm

Jacula

19 minutes to go. If anyone needs a clue speak now or forever hold your peace.

11:47 pm

Jacula

Got one eye on the security cams because fox wars are going on here between 'my' foxes from the nearby wood and my mum's foxes from the fields further up (since the fields are being disturbed and uprooted by work going on in them to make a woodland burial ground). Got to check none of them have sprayed sloppy poo anywhere before I let the cats out. Don't want that trodden into the house!

11:50 pm

grannyrose

ewwww Jacula.

11:53 pm

Jacula

Yes, grannyrose, starting the day clearing sloppy fox poo away and then the contents of a shared by 3 cats litter tray is my usual start to the day.

11:55 pm

Jacula

It used to be hedgehog poo as well, but my son's old schoolfriend has nicked my hedgehogs by feeding them first, so he has to clear up their mess now.lol

11:57 pm

grannyrose

is fox poo always sloppy? or is it seasonal?

11:57 pm

Jacula

Son's old schoolfriend used to stay overnight at our house a lot. I've never forgotten the time he went to sleep with a bar of chocolate in his sleeping bag and it all melted and I thought he'd sh*t himself during the night.

11:58 pm

Jacula

Fox poo isn't always sloppy, but seems to often be in Autumn.

11:59 pm

grannyrose

interesting.

12:00 am

Jacula

All the fruit they eat and then fatty winter food they steal from bins or get fed, I guess, grannyrose.

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