12:04 am
Shellbell_o-well
am7
12:12 am
Rainiqui
nbt, nbs
12:14 am
cybernan
hi everyone - just a quick peek before bed
12:14 am
cybernan
wow - that was fast, rain
12:17 am
licketySplitAUS
Clues are up
12:33 am
cybernan
nbt,nbs - good night :)
1:58 am
sprite
morning babblers
2:00 am
sprite
phantom: systemic
2:20 am
granadan
Morning all
2:21 am
sprite
morning gradadan
2:23 am
mattygroves
Holy Spelling Bee, Batman - there's an S in today's Spelling Bee (apparently it's the 2500th Spelling Bee)
2:23 am
sprite
hi matty :)
2:27 am
mattygroves
Morning! How are you?
2:28 am
sprite
up and not crying :) I read somewhere that that is a normal response in scandinavia
2:35 am
mattygroves
I like that response! I am..not quite up yet (WFH today) but I have coffee, I am awake and still breathing, so that's a start!
2:36 am
sprite
definitely. You rock!
2:37 am
mattygroves
Likewise!
2:40 am
mattygroves
Eesh should be a word. Like 'eesh, there's an S in Spelling Bee'
2:41 am
sprite
totally agree
2:41 am
mattygroves
Or 'eesh, I haven't yet found the E words from the bottom row, so tried 'eesh''
2:42 am
sprite
eesh, how co4 eesh is not valid?
2:43 am
mattygroves
Exactly.
2:43 am
mattygroves
Ditto yeesh.
2:44 am
sprite
yes. That is SO a word.
2:44 am
crosshair
Good (very early) morning, Babblers. :)
2:44 am
sprite
hiya crossy *hug*
2:45 am
crosshair
((sprite))
2:45 am
mattygroves
It's 7.45 am here :) Our clocks don't change until the end of the month. Hi crossy!
2:46 am
crosshair
It is 03:45 here. :/
2:46 am
sprite
ugh yeah, summertime DLS is coming. I hate it.
2:46 am
crosshair
Howdy, matty. :)
2:46 am
mattygroves
Way too early to Babble! ;)
2:47 am
sprite
ouch crossy, that is night time. Sleep time.
2:48 am
crosshair
Some night my asthma acts up, and I get what my beloved calls the "harrumphs." So I am banished to the livingroom for now. :)
2:48 am
mattygroves
Double awww
2:49 am
crosshair
Just me and the dogs out here. :)
2:49 am
sprite
good company, though
2:49 am
crosshair
Yup. :)
2:52 am
sprite
quite a few monkey words today
2:53 am
crosshair
Just had to go through the process of using the product insurance on a tablet I bought a year ago. The insurance cost was $99 on a $400 tablet. It fell from a height of two feet onto a carpeted floor and the screen detonated like a hand grenage.
2:54 am
crosshair
Grenade
2:54 am
mattygroves
Hurrah!
2:54 am
crosshair
Yaa for sprite!!
2:54 am
sprite
yeah that shouldn't happen. Hope you get your money back. Bye darlings, poofing with hugs
2:55 am
crosshair
And she is gone--like the wind in the grass. :)
3:00 am
mattygroves
Dust in the wind. All we are is dust in the wiiiinnnddd
3:01 am
mattygroves
I shall need to get into the shower shortly
4:33 am
lshult
good morning all
4:33 am
lshult
straight in with la 8/60
6:24 am
Christa
Good Morning
7:27 am
wingding
crossy, did the insurance pay up ??? that 25% fee seems high
7:34 am
MollyL
Depends on the deductible
8:03 am
mael
not a fun grid today
8:06 am
hokie carla
mael!
8:06 am
hokie carla
I have just started but of course struggling with the first vowel I came to.
8:12 am
wingding
was excited when i saw malt, made me think of the drug store soda bars we had
8:13 am
hokie carla
are you saying phantom malt or did I miss another post?
8:18 am
hokie carla
phantom seismic
8:19 am
MollyL
I swear, sometimes I read this chat and it makes no sense at all.
8:27 am
mkg
Clue for la 8?
8:27 am
mkg
Never mind got it. Ty.
8:28 am
mkg
Apologies all.
8:40 am
rururocks
what's a phantom Malt?
8:41 am
MollyL
Ghost beer
8:43 am
rururocks
spookweiser?
8:46 am
rururocks
ghoulager?
8:47 am
rururocks
is that where the saying three sheets to the wind came from?
8:56 am
MollyL
Don't know but I'm sure our resident "I consulted Google" expert could track it down for you.
9:19 am
rururocks
WRONG BOX GITEL
9:20 am
Gitel
Omg. I was talking to my company and didn't notice. Big apologies!
9:21 am
rururocks
well you helped a lot of people needing fours
9:23 am
MollyL
Multi-tasking is not always a good thing
9:24 am
rururocks
I couldn't multi-task to save my life
9:25 am
MollyL
I don't get the division of attention. Obviously, one thing is going to suffer.
9:26 am
rururocks
well .. it's only a game who cares really
9:33 am
MollyL
No, I meant about multi-tasking in general.
9:37 am
wingding
carla, phantom malt ... i'm busy w/ work, so haven;t looked here in awhile
9:50 am
swmbo
I multitask all the time. Doing laundry, making bread, knitting and listening to an audiobook. All doable. Morning all!
9:50 am
BzznBea
I have not had enough coffee yet or this grid is not an easy one.
9:51 am
swmbo
Babble though I do not multitask.
9:55 am
BzznBea
phantom - seismic
10:04 am
rbud
women are better at multi-tasking than men, I think - I used to talk on the phone, watch kids, cook dinner, do dishes, and clean all at the same time, ya know...
and hubs had to shush everyone, mute the TV, and drop everything else when his phone rang! ;p
10:05 am
swmbo
Haha so true rbud
10:29 am
crosshair
Yes, Wingding, after much back and forth on the phone and computer punching in code numbers from the recipt, they did pay up. I will have a cheque for the full purchace price in a week or so.
10:31 am
crosshair
You are 100% correct, rbud. In fact, these days I have to turn down the radio to see better while driving. :/
10:36 am
wingding
cross, that's awesome, my wife got a 'extended warranty' for her car when she bought it, was a scam and thankfully w/ the lawyer they reimbursed her, i've shied from warranties
10:37 am
cybernan
good morning everyone
10:38 am
crosshair
I nirmally do as well, but the wife and I work our tablets hard. At least they s way I get seventy-five percent of the cost of the tablet back.
10:39 am
cybernan
oops -- talking about multi tasking and the wrong box...
10:39 am
crosshair
Damn typos.
10:39 am
crosshair
You guve the best clues, cybernan. :)
10:40 am
wingding
well done cross, i only use the laptop as a device, the wife and son live on the phone/tablet
10:40 am
cybernan
lol - sorry
10:41 am
cybernan
finding more phantoms than words at the moment
10:42 am
crosshair
We use our tablets for muti-media applications mostly. I cannot write well with them. I have a 1995 H.P office slimline computer I use as a word cruncher. I do a redundency back up on floppy disk! :)
10:43 am
cybernan
my desktop is still running win 7 -- only use it for photo editing now.
10:44 am
cybernan
don't like win 11 so still using 10 on the laptop
10:44 am
crosshair
I still run 7Pro
10:45 am
crosshair
Hackers don't even bother with it anymore. :)
10:45 am
cybernan
problem with the new OS's is that you can not use your old programs on them and you can't buy new ones -- everything is leasing now, which I don't like at all.
10:47 am
crosshair
That is another reason I keep the old computer running. Sometimes I enjoy playing legacy games.
10:48 am
crosshair
Try and keep the mush between my ears sharp.
10:48 am
cybernan
yes - that becomes a job at my age :)
10:50 am
crosshair
That and reading more of my books. They are looking down at me from the bookcase in disaproval.
10:52 am
wingding
i cannot type on anything short of a full keyboard ... when home for covid, i got a 36" monitor and brought my keyboard and mouse from the office and plugged into a docking station ... issue now, i have to lug everything w/ me, they took my windows 10 desktop and trashed it, i've only got the lap-top ,, i can not see the screen nor type on the little keypad ... the mouse is a joke
10:54 am
wingding
cross, the only reading i do is at night before bed and it's old issues of new yorker .. i suspended the subsciption because the pile of unread issues was mounting
10:56 am
crosshair
My phone has the Samsung "Dex" program. I can cast it to my 60 inch LCD, use a bluetooth keyboard and mouse, and have all the screen real estate I could ever need. :) it is a handy thing.
11:02 am
crosshair
Just found an sy4 while randomly pounding in letters to see what sticks. :)
11:05 am
cybernan
from the Robbie Burns song everyone knows?
11:07 am
moolingwa
hidey hodey
11:07 am
Kaplan the Magne
avis
11:07 am
Kaplan the Magne
tavis
11:07 am
Kaplan the Magne
oops
11:08 am
moolingwa
therrtz
11:08 am
crosshair
Howdy, mool. :)
11:08 am
MollyL
We try harder
11:08 am
moolingwa
hey crossy, happy day of wednessing
11:09 am
swmbo
Please d not refer to your wife as “the wife†she is not an object, she is a person. Yes I am picky about some things.
11:10 am
crosshair
On a good note, I get my very first pension check this month. :). Now I can supersize my fries at the take out window. :)
11:10 am
moolingwa
woohoo!
11:11 am
cybernan
good point swmbo :)
11:12 am
crosshair
There was no disrespect there, swmbo. I say my wife, much in the way she says "my husband" in online conversation when we do not with to use names or an endearment.
11:13 am
swmbo
“My wife†is Ok.â€the wife†is not. Picky I know.
11:13 am
crosshair
Ahh, I see. I will correct that going forward.
11:15 am
crosshair
Lol, guss I should mention that we sometimes refer to each other as "wife unit," or "husband unit." Our 32nd is this month. :)
11:16 am
bichon
haha crossy. We're the "parental units" to our son
11:16 am
crosshair
This year* in October*
11:16 am
crosshair
Lol, bichon. :)
11:17 am
bichon
We've been married 53 years
11:17 am
crosshair
Good grief!! You have not killed him off yet??!
11:19 am
crosshair
I have to be careful, MY wive loves true crime, and forensic shows. She knows way too many ways to hide a body.
11:19 am
cybernan
not doing well with the 6's and 7's here
11:19 am
swmbo
https://i.redd.it/sei0v732lboc1.jpeg
11:20 am
crosshair
Nor am I, cybernan.
11:20 am
crosshair
I have read that before.
11:21 am
cybernan
time for breakfast - bbl
11:21 am
crosshair
I promise to watch my P's and q"s, swmbo.
11:21 am
swmbo
No problem. I am not really crazy. Just some things jump out at me.
11:22 am
moolingwa
mute point is one of mine
11:22 am
swmbo
Btw you weren’t the only one to use the phrase. It as the second one that triggered me actually.
11:22 am
crosshair
Or "axed" instead of asked.
11:23 am
swmbo
Don’t get me started on grammar
11:23 am
crosshair
And all that baby daddy/baby momma stuff.
11:25 am
crosshair
As an English nerd who loves the Oxford comma rules, I try to tread lightly when correcting others.
11:25 am
moolingwa
Also worth noting that english is an ever evolving language, so the rules aren't static anyway
11:26 am
crosshair
Because I make some dandy mistakes as well.
11:27 am
swmbo
Moolingwa so true. Many years ago PBS did a series called The Story of English. It was fascinating to see how the language evolved and adapted to the needs of the time and place.
11:28 am
crosshair
I spent three years as a T.A at a local learning centre. The kids used to say how they loved how the wife and I talked "old skool."
11:29 am
BzznBea
"Axed" is an accepted word in the African American language as a historically acceptable pronunciation.
11:29 am
swmbo
That being said, atrocities such as axed, “moot pointâ€, should have, could have, would have etc are still jarring.
11:29 am
crosshair
Did not know that, bzz.
11:29 am
swmbo
Oops did not know that Buzz. Not trying to be racially insensitive
11:30 am
crosshair
Nor I.
11:30 am
swmbo
You did it again Crossy lol
11:31 am
swmbo
The wife and I
11:31 am
crosshair
I will tell her and get my spanking later.
11:32 am
Gillie
swmbo has deep moral objections to the subjunctive tense, apparently
11:32 am
swmbo
I guess I have stirred enough feces, I’d better go do some knitting haha
11:32 am
crosshair
It is obviously a bad habit if mine that I will strive to correct.
11:33 am
swmbo
Back to say: I object to calling a person a thing.
11:33 am
Gillie
but is fine with run-on sentences
11:34 am
Gillie
I'm talking about "would have"
11:34 am
crosshair
The English language can be an interesting thing indeed.
11:35 am
Gillie
well, people with strong opinions with it are frequently a strange and inconsistent bunch
11:35 am
swmbo
I just reread the Chat. It corrected my use of “would of†etc!
11:36 am
swmbo
Outta here!
11:37 am
crosshair
For example, when writing, I prefer to use full words instead of contractions. It adds to to word count but lends a certain cadence to the story that would otherwise not be there.
11:42 am
BzznBea
Most college English profs will red pen contractions.
11:43 am
crosshair
I hear MY wife stirring, so I shall go make her a cuppa. Back shortly.
11:46 am
Gillie
I never had that issue - how many college English profs have you sampled?
11:46 am
cybernan
I think using "the" instead of "my" in reference to one's wife originated in the middle ages -- you know, when women were considered to be chattel. Wondering if we can now add it to the list of "politically incorrect" words and expressions?
11:47 am
crosshair
I think so!
11:49 am
wingding
i've tired of "politically incorrect" this entire administration is up to their necks now ...
11:50 am
crosshair
There are landmines everywhere, so this old dog has to think long and hard before he speaks sometimes.
11:52 am
cybernan
struggled long enough - heading to the list
11:52 am
crosshair
Was in the weed shop, picking up some THC capsules, and niticed the I.D tag of one employee simply said "They."
11:52 am
Gillie
Well, I don't know that "the wife" implies possession any more than "my wife" (less so, grammatically), but "the wife" does sound dismissive, somehow.
11:53 am
crosshair
As I said, I shall try and not say it in that way going forward.
11:53 am
Gillie
Maybe because it implies that the speaker is trying to distance himself from his wife
11:53 am
cybernan
use of the possessive makes it personal while the article makes it objective.
11:54 am
hurshy
but it's all a matter of perception. if we didn't live in a misogynistic society, you could easily perceive a man saying "the wife" as being an indication that as far as he's concerned, she's the only wife in the world, because he only has eyes for her
11:55 am
crosshair
Exactly.
11:56 am
crosshair
Or what if we had an open marriage? I would say "The wife, not the girlfriend."
11:57 am
hurshy
you could still use "my" in that case too, but, either way
11:57 am
Gillie
you could still say "my wife, not my girlfriend" - that really doesn't address the question
11:58 am
Gillie
what hurshy said
11:59 am
crosshair
Well, enough of that for now. I shall do better going forward, and avod calling my beloved "the wife" in conversation.
11:59 am
hurshy
funnily enough, i've heard some animal lovers say we should NOT use "my" for talking about pets, as they feel it implies possession/ownership. i said that's crazy, i mean, when you say "my hometown" nobody thinks you mean "the hometown which i own".
12:00 pm
hurshy
Ls Licked!
12:00 pm
cybernan
as 7 please? and the at 7's?
12:02 pm
hurshy
at + take the vi5 (view) and move the last letter to the front
12:02 pm
hurshy
then change the ending to make it like a belief system
12:02 pm
crosshair
Ty, hurshy
12:04 pm
cybernan
ty hurshy
12:07 pm
cybernan
sy 7 please?
12:08 pm
BzznBea
ends with not bro
12:11 pm
mkg
Any clues for 7s welcome. I have none.
12:11 pm
hurshy
we just gave three
12:12 pm
mkg
Ok just saw them. Ty hurshy
12:12 pm
crosshair
Well, looks like Ford has a meeting with Trump this Thursday. Hope things can be worked out. This "tit-for-tat" tarrifing obviously will not work. Too much money being lost on both sides of the border. Sold some shares a week after the initial tarrifs were put in place, and since that time the stock in question has shed another $10/share. I am one of the lucky ones getting out with only a $2K loss. I can only see it getting worse if a deal cannot be made.
12:13 pm
cybernan
still need the am 7, an 8 and as 7 to finish the a's - any help appreciated
12:14 pm
BzznBea
am7 is dismissal of past transgressions
12:14 pm
hurshy
i think part of the problem is that in his companies presumably everyone just always says "yes sir, great idea sir" and built up his impression that all his ideas are great. so now he's pressing buttons as he has been used to doing and not getting the usual result. but he just keeps pressing them thinking it'll work eventually.
12:15 pm
crosshair
We, this time he better kearn to push different buttons.
12:15 pm
crosshair
Learn.*
12:15 pm
hurshy
hard to teach an old, narcissistic, mentally declining dog new tricks
12:16 pm
cybernan
If we don't say no to Trump now it will be worse than making a "deal" - Trump doesn't honour his promises. I liked Ford's original plan - if Trump doubles down on the tariffs - cut off the power.
12:16 pm
hurshy
yeah, never give in to bullies
12:17 pm
Gillie
especially since Trump has been saying "how dare they charge more for electricity, why are we even using their electricity" - not having it would be a quick way to find out
12:18 pm
mkg
I am missing bottom row E words. Clues welcome
12:18 pm
hurshy
phantom: visit
12:18 pm
crosshair
Agreed, cybernan. That cerainly made him blink.
12:18 pm
cybernan
All the automotive plants in Detroit can't operate without power.
12:19 pm
mkg
Ty. Any meaning?
12:19 pm
crosshair
Well, did he actually think that we were just going to roll over and take a 25%tarrif on everything?
12:19 pm
hurshy
he's an idiot, so yes, he probably thought that
12:20 pm
crosshair
He is lucky we did not play the potash card.
12:20 pm
hurshy
en6/24 is the other
12:20 pm
cybernan
that's still in our back pocket, crossy
12:21 pm
mkg
Bloomberg radio had a group saying that what trump wants is to then be able to negotiate on other things. Who knows what his meaning is.
12:21 pm
cybernan
still not seeing that em - my mind isn't really on the game I guess
12:21 pm
crosshair
Now we will learn what he really wants.
12:22 pm
mkg
Em? It was en….
12:22 pm
hurshy
there's an em4, cnan, but we've been talking about eN words just lately
12:22 pm
mkg
Any hints on meaning of the words?
12:22 pm
BzznBea
He wants what Putin tells him to want.
12:23 pm
BzznBea
I gave you en5. Can you not figure out three letters?
12:23 pm
cybernan
I think the man has lost all sense of reality and should be removed from office before he does any more damage.
12:24 pm
hurshy
but for that we would need republicans in congress to grow a spine. AND then we would still be left with Vance
12:25 pm
hurshy
vance might be better for canada though, idk, even if he's not better for the US
12:25 pm
cybernan
In the short time he's been in power look at what he has already destroyed: the civil service, the legal system, the reliability of the media, the education system, the credibility of the armed services.
12:26 pm
hurshy
vance would continue all that. he just might be sensible enough not to try to annex canada or carry on stupid trade wars
12:26 pm
cybernan
oh and probably most important - the reputation of the USA in the world.
12:27 pm
Gillie
honestly, it does seem like he's been taking instructions on how to dismantle America so that it will no longer be a power that Putin needs to worry about
12:27 pm
mkg
got it bea. Sorry
12:27 pm
hurshy
Heather Cox Richardson says it hardly matters to know whether he is technically a Russian asset or not because if he were, there's nothing more he'd be doing that he hasn't already done
12:29 pm
cybernan
ok - don't need to be any more stressed out than I already am -- see you tomorrow :)
12:29 pm
crosshair
On a Russian new station, a government official referred to Trump as an "imbedded asset."
12:29 pm
hurshy
yeah i think by now every newspaper in the country should have had screamer headlines saying "RUSSIA WINS COLD WAR AT LAST WITH FRIENDS IN THE WHITE HOUSE"
12:30 pm
hurshy
phantom: society
12:30 pm
Shellbell_o-well
that ji4; wth! such fun monkey-ing in circles
12:30 pm
crosshair
Sorry, cybernan. Did not mean to stress you, but when a major superpower threatens to take over your contry by financial attacks ir other means, it gets us going.
12:31 pm
hurshy
thanks shellbell
12:31 pm
crosshair
Country*
12:32 pm
crosshair
That and his comment about adjusting the border.
12:33 pm
crosshair
Sorry, I will stop with the politics.
12:34 pm
BzznBea
Trump owes Russia billions of dollars for the failed businesses they gave him when US banks would not give him money. Russia has been waiting for this moment.
12:36 pm
Shellbell_o-well
yw, harsh
12:36 pm
hurshy
phantom: moist
12:37 pm
crosshair
Bit of good news: Our new contract with the E.U is almost set, and the first large delivery of L.N.G is set for this July. :)
12:37 pm
hurshy
ooh just found a biology me7
12:54 pm
rbud
just read all the "the" vs "my" comments, and may I opine that the phrase "politically correct" is, these days, an oxymoron.
1:10 pm
crosshair
Ever since Covid first reared its ugly head I have noticed that there is always someone waiting to be offended, but I noted her objection, agreed with it, and will attempt to correct myself going forward. :)
1:17 pm
penquis
phantom:: amnesia....hello all....
1:18 pm
crosshair
Howdy, Pen. :)
1:18 pm
penquis
hi crossy....
1:40 pm
penquis
i think i am around 84%...
1:45 pm
hurshy
i've got symmetry now with lengths, 3-4-4-3
1:46 pm
penquis
7 5 2 6 1 here...
1:46 pm
penquis
guess i should look for my fours...
1:47 pm
hurshy
went to the list
1:48 pm
hurshy
some v weird ones that even i don't remember seeing before
1:49 pm
penquis
i am only missing one V word....do have the odd vi 5....
1:49 pm
hurshy
no no i didn't mean weird V words, i meant Very weird ones
1:50 pm
hurshy
aj5/26 and plural, ci7/40
1:50 pm
hurshy
sometimes i abbreviate very down to v
1:52 pm
hurshy
the V you are missing is mostly likely vi5/18
1:52 pm
hurshy
but could be va5/20
1:52 pm
penquis
i have the Vi word.....it's the va i am missing...
1:53 pm
hurshy
make the word for big ... into an adjective? even tho it already is?
1:53 pm
penquis
got it...
1:56 pm
penquis
also got the aj words...ty....
2:00 pm
penquis
i have the la 8...what is the other 8?...
2:10 pm
penquis
nm....monkeyed the other 8...
2:14 pm
penquis
well i am stalled at 10....taking a break....bye all....
3:16 pm
rbud
woot - done. laters, all! 😊
3:45 pm
SuzeeQ24
anyone have a clue for me7?
3:45 pm
Kamanjah
cell division
3:59 pm
NANCY
MI 6 please
6:52 pm
suefrad625
hi all
7:29 pm
72 Temple Owl
me 7 pls?
7:33 pm
72 Temple Owl
nm good night
7:37 pm
lynxxx
me & **U means a debt to repay & start of female sibling
8:09 pm
dan2bit
name that goddess - evening all!